Tracking Video Lessons with Ivan Balabanov - Page 2

This one.  Welcome Ivan. :)

No, he meant this one.  Ivan has only had one post, silly girl.

Personally, I absolutely love Balabanov and his methods.  His Obedience without Conflict set is the absolute best I have ever seen.  His methods works like magic on my very, very possesive dogs.  These dogs could not be even choked off a sleeve at our club but using Balabanov I could ous them with no conflict, no correction, no nothing.  It is a joy to train using his methods, for the dog and handler, and if I were to move, I would be sure to move close enough so that I could train with him.  I wish I had known about him two decades ago.   

AHH .. again ..his is the problem with guru training ..... first time i ever saw anything for Ivan .......... tyhe clip does not give gfair due .. i am sure that Ivan is a goos trainer ... so now a critque ... not a critsim .. again i stress a critque.
 re: the video of the dog not making the turn[ and granted only little clips were presented in the video]  - dicussing ' correcting" ...
                I would ask ivan " Why is the dog allowed even to go ahead , make a turn .. when you don't know with your eyes shut , that the dog has been proven .. to navigate a turn and in generalized environmental situatuions ?? THAT IVAN is the mistake !!
              secondly .. our comminication with our dogs is our asset.. we all know timing is critical ... so IVAN .. WHY communicate to the dog when he is 5 to 10 feet off track ??  ok .. i already know the rebutles  such as " i want the dog to think it through " ," well i don't want an association to ba assoc iated with the track " ..  MY reply .. yes , i see those points and NO , not enterley correct .. IMO not good training never mind great training !!    Now i know some of you die hards rreading this thread are laready nerved up after reading thsi .. and some already have the " attitude" if you think alphapup yopu are so good why don't ypou have a video [ beacuse i am not in the GSD world / on this PDB , or train " For Money " .. that's why .. but aside from my credentials .. which  99% of the world in reality doesn't care and the other 20% look to do you in any way . i will just state a bit and you  consider :             
               IMO .. teach something correctly , absoulutely correctly the very [ not the second ]    the first [ 1ST ] time..  and IMO teaching  : setting up the context for your dog to be correct /ake the correct choices and/or  behavior & that entails  communicating to yuor dog exactly and precisely !!    Re ' correction " .. blatant disobedience requires asserting your self ... mistakes require no corrections but the opportunity to re-communbicate to your dog and IMO that requires the exact moment you dog is not offering the correct choice and behavior .. not 10 feet [distance ] & 10 secs [ time] away from that point .. I personally don't like the word  correction ... the fact is not just what you do but how you do it .. .. yopu can help the dog in a very very poitive manner at that moment the dog errs . Also .. i never never never imprint upon the dog ..'it can go back on the track especially as it has gone 10 feet beyond when  it should have indicated the article .. no that is addressed right there and then[ and proofed off track if possible].  .. i do not ever put the outlook into the dogs mind that it has permission to go back once on a track [ for sport , not trying to rescue someone] .. " he better have learned to get it right the first time" .. that is what concentration is about '!! Now .. for crying out loud .. i had puppies 10 weeks , 16 weeks old .. first time doing turns .. WHY because i set them up to never fail .. and if they are about to make a mistake .. i prevent them from doing it- i set it up so that the dog becomes correct , thinks and makes the right choice..  . simple .. i never say a word .. i use my body postion so that they have 1 way to go .. forward .. and that allows them to figure it out . . they are guided..  again  right from the st

The difference here is the fact that you have never owned a Malinois.  Or if you had, you didn't own it long.  Ivan is the most knowledgeable Malinois breeder/trainer in America.  He is the only American to win a World Championship SchH/IPO event.  Not only did he win the AWDF Championship 3 years in a row, he won the AWDF, FMBB and FCI Championships in the same year, and won them with a dog that he bred and trained.    I do however point a finger at Ivan for starting the beginning of the end of the Malinois legend in USCA.  If he hadn't won the USCA National, Lyle and Johannes would still be busboys.  So, I'm guessing Ivan has the credentials to coach and teach others how to work/train their dogs.  What he posted as videos earlier were teasers to spark an interest in his Train Per View program, he's not showing beginning to end training. 

Now let's see the list of Championship events you have won with multiple dogs.

BTW, just a question, are you from the States?

 

Duderino .. please .. why do you make posts always personal and in the same post contribute no thought / shared klnowledge ?? .. and .. .. .. what's it to you where i have trained , with who , what i have done ? does that change what i have written ?? Do you have a point to challenge me on as far as what i wrote ??  .. for the readers on this forum ... usually i do not sound off and try to be respectful  . but respect is earned ..  to many times duerino you have displayed to me  arrogance .. and  every time you have nothing to contribute .. you aim for character degradation .. .. don't wast my time .. YOU have anything constructive to add to the thread ? , do you have  a point that allows you to disagree / debate / prove another point otherwise / another  philisophically reason to train in a different manner ? in reference  to anything  i have written ?/ then in plain english-  you have no right to question not only mine but anyone  on credentials / experience / achievements..  [ for the readers info  .. i have  owned  malinois from one of the hardest , most top producing lines in Belgium !!] ... still IMO .. good teachers can clean up mistakes .. great teaches .. teach how to avoid making the mistakes .. show people how to do something right .. that's what they come on the forum for .. to learn how to better themselves and their dogs..[ i have shared hours of knowledge on this PDB - free of charge too .. has IVAN ??].. AND  of what value is showing someone after the fact ?? they want to know how to do it right in the fiorst place .. again .. that is what makes an exraordinary trainer / teacher / DVD .. e.g .. which replies to the person commenting on the number of people not visiting this thread.. a lot of good that does them AFTER they nmade the mistakes .. maybe Ivan can take a lesson about human nature !! and you to duderino !! BTW .. since when now has the PDB threads become a platform to 'SELL" and promote one's self ??

Everyone has the right to be paid for their expertise.  When my car breaks down I don't expect my mechanic to fix it for free.  When I go to my orthopedic guys because I once again snapped one of my joints, I don't expect them to put me back together for free.  When my accountant does my taxes and gives me financial advice I don't expect it for free.  I don't offer tips or suggestions on how to fix complex problems over the Internet because in "my world", it's irresponsible just as it would be for me to fix someone's problem over the phone.  Ivan's credentials speak for themselves, he doesn't have to defend his techniques or methods.  You want my advice?  Bring your "best dog ever from Belgium" and I'll see what I can do for you,,,my guess his you're hopeless.

duderino .. i would to a degree,  had given to  you that point about being paid .. But you make the assumption .. this forum is a place of business .. it is not .. it is a place to share ideas , discuss thoughts . for poeople to come to share experiences / kowledge .. all in the hope that someone else is able to better themselves and their dogs ! and the folks that post here do not ask for payment in return - and it doesn't mattter if one is expert or not ! anyone that makes a post here to help someone then would be equally deserving of compensation on that note .. you need not be an expert to help .. just someone that cares to share ..  me , you Ivan are no more better or worse in those respects .. > HELLO .. it is a forum !! IMO .. if someone comes here with a promotion from themselves or some confederate [ someone else doing that ofr them] and they can't take one monent to offer something of little knowledge out of all their so called 'espewtise' .. IMO they aren't worthy enough to be promoted !! that tells me .. they are more interested in themselves and making a dam buck then genuinely interested in helping someone else .. with all his experitse / or yours - how much advice have you all shared  to help someone here ?? oh ya .. i forgot -- you think you always have to be paid !IMO .. his video was there to promote sales .. and .. i have no problem with sales .. but IMO they should be in that respect confined to the advertisemant area .. just fot the record .. that is  another reason as i have posted before i don't do Sch .. come on- $$ always per session /// for crying out loud i can get a V rated GSD Sch 1 from germany about $2500. - and a good GSD ,less than what i would pay to get him titled here in the USA !! isn't that a hoot !! french ring .. we trained , costs - shared for equipment plus $50.oo / year .. so .. i think these people that train for money here in the USA could afford to give a little bit of help - pro bono too . BTW .. DUDE .. i genrelly stay low keyed .. i have may not tiltled  the world- which i had invitation too  .. but i can assure you i have been put through the 'coals of fire' , intesnely tested in order that i may train canines  and in order to train canines with people .. most likely have 3x the knowledge about learning/psychology etc etc / than ivan .. if i can come on this forum and share for free / i think someone of his caliber , as you say,  i would like to think he would be thrilled to  spare a little of advicehere  too . so he can train dogs huh ..tell me ?  what qualifies him to teach people ?? BTW .. i little to the side .. big deal .. some of these peole that got to the top ? how many dogs did they go through [ buy sell] before they said . this is the dog? i want to see someone that can train a dog not deemed one to go to the top , train that one to excel.. then i will be impressed .. anyone can train THE DOG that HAS IT ALL .. but what about the dog that just someone has to work with ?? please duederino .. lets all be honest , fair , compassionate , and kind to other people .. give me a break - no advice beacuse they have to get paid - always . { BTW i most likely am writing .. what a 1000 other people are thinking ]