Unethical? Lazy? or Just plain Stupid?? - Page 3

Thank you for that suggestion...

That is a very good avenue, and one I have previously attetmpted to go through in the past...however in my case, the scammer who duped me was also a very good liar..and also lived in Canada, and they could not force her to do what was right.  At that time there was very little postings about her scamming and for several years she continued to flat out rip people off..selling dogs without providing papers, selling dogs that were not available for sale, selling dogs that were for sale but not hers to sell or provide...  selling the same dog Numerous times to several people...with out ever intending to send a dog or if there was a dog...would never provide papers...or proper papers if papers were actually provided. . 



This is why I am looking for other's experience in having effective means to address this. 

Onr of the reasons that your Canadian friend operated as long as she did was because people (including you?) practically covered for her for years. Rather than state forthrightly what she did, psuedo-hypothetical "what would you do's" were plastered all over the internet. Finally,someone did publicly state her name and the flood-gates opened. She was finally identified and virtually put out of business. She wrecked havoc on a lot of people for years.

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Finally,someone did publicly state her name and the flood-gates opened. She was finally identified and virtually put out of business. 

You are correct on the above...and that "someone" would be me, as well as the person who shipped me the dog that this scammer sold to me. 
This person was successful in taking this scammer to court over her own battle, winning the case and securing a judgement against this scammer.  She was successfully awarded rightful ownership of the
dog(s) she sued her for ownership over, along with AKC registration of said dog(s).   All Resulting litters from said dogs were also subsequently registered, in light of the judgement of ownership being awarded to the person bringing suit in this case, against the scammer.   
I was not so fortunate in bringing her to justice,  and got stung for nearly 6,000 on purchase of a breeding female from this scammer.  Among other things which were fraudulently portrayed, her promised pink papers for registration were never provided to me with her purchase.  Shortly therafter I had this dog spayed and she was placed into a pet home.
 
The two of us each have since posted a detailed account on our websites, dedicated to exposing this scammer's fraudulent dog sales, so that others will find these facts if they have the forsight to google her.  

WHY???  

Because it's the one sure fire way to continue to warn others of these fraudulent dealers, in an effort to prevent future known harm to others.

But don't be fooled...she is not out of business.  She is only much better at flying under the radar and works through others to make her deals.  Several people have contacted me with updates on her whereabouts, who are also trying to bring her to justice in their own cases of fraud at her hands.  
 

However incorrect on this:
Onr of the reasons that your Canadian friend operated as long as she did was because people (including you?) practically covered for her for years. Rather than state forthrightly what she did, psuedo-hypothetical "what would you do's" were plastered all over the internet. 
For the record..
she was not my "Canadian friend".. she was not a friend of any kind.
I had but only this one dealing with her...and never another, thankfully !!
Many others were FAR less fortunate. 
I certainly have never "covered for her". 
I posted a thread on the database several years ago, directly and openly addressing it to her explicitly, calling her out and exposing her for the scam she pulled on me in selling me a breeding dog with no pink papers ...she responded to my posts with a flurry of lies but was finally exposed for the scam it was via my detailed account of the transaction, and then she whined to the moderator and succeeded in having the thread removed from the database. 
So most of what had been put out there disappeared.  
 
Much the same occurred when I reported this scammer to the RCMP...she lied to them about our transaction "being in proper order", and convinced them I was simply an unhappy customer...  
Most buyers I think would be similarly "unhappy customers", had they paid nearly $6,000.00 for a dog without promised pink papers with which to register the dog.  
These facts detailing the full story of her scam will remain on my website forever.  
Indeed, posting this information is what helped to remove her from her ongoing hunt for new victims. 
 

My post here on this thread is not directed at that person or situation.  I am not going to name her here, nor the other party that I originally posted this thread about.   I have already done the most effective exposure I could think of for the person you name above, which shall remain clearly described in detail on internet cyberspace for others to find and be made aware of, so they can make up their OWN minds if they want to entrust their hard earned money with this person or not.
If people want to know more about the scam on me and others, then do a google search on her and see what comes up.
But You've actually got her name spelled incorrectly.  

My post about that situation is no longer on the PDB, because as I've stated, the complete thread was removed at her demand..and some of the ones remaining about her which had been started by others at various times have somewhat to do with the same situation that I was dealing with, in that the facts are intertwined with the scam she pulled on me and the sale of the dog I purchased, Gesi. 

My posting regarding this thread was about asking for other's input on methods they have used that have been effective in dealing directly with the situation I described in my original post.  

 

Czech DDR Lover, that person will almost certainly sell the puppies as registered and the papers are "in the mail," and then there'll be the same old posts on pdb about unwary puppy buyers who end up never getting the AKC papers they were promised and they paid for.

I have no idea who you are talking about, but she sounds like she learned her trade from Vickie Lanig!

Hi VomMarischal,
Thanks for your response..
No, it's not the person you mention, I dont' know that person so might be best to remove that since this thread is definately not about her. 

Apparently this thread in and of itself was the most effective way for dealing with this situation.
The kennel owner has done the right thing and pulled all posts for future litters produced by said stud from his website.
A New stud for his future litters has been chosen and posted in his place. 

So at this time, Mission Accomplished, and Case closed.

I am not the doggie police.  I have time to take care of my own dogs.  I can't worry about what I can't change. How many litters are for sale now?  Planned, in whelp, on the ground, weaned? That's a lot to keep track of.