Female handlers weakening the breed?!? - Page 9

Please explain Bukos gunshyness and his poor nerves? Please explain his brow beaten OB performances? Why would you breed a dog with poor nerves, kennel blindness? Or is his poor performance because of your heavy handed training methods? Us stupid k9 guys would wash that dog and find a nice home for him as a pet. You are known as an Internet buffoon, plenty of PMs came my way. Most of the k9 guys called you out directly as I do for your typical BS posts. Didn't you get banned from that site? What would you do with out the PDB?

Jeff,
Please pay attention to me and answer my questions about Buko?  Did you ever fix the nerve issue?  Did he ever get over the gun fire problem?  Please tell us all how you fixed the gun shyness and what you did to get him to stop running from gunfire in trials?  Or did you just give up on him (because he is too hard) and retire him to use only as a stud dog and switch to GSD's?  Have his ears and tail come back up since you stopped kicking , I mean working him?     

I see you cannot follow commands very well. 

Very well, what is it now ?

Very well, what is it now ? 

The same questions you keep dodging every time you are asked.  I suppose David Frost was correct on WDF, I should just take his advice and hear "blah blah blah" every time you post. 

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The same questions you keep dodging every time you are asked.

There is a difference between dodging, and not really wanting to have to carefully and patiently explain to you what a dog is, and all the ways that you are wrong about reading a dog.

There is no dodging, you can see almost all my trials and tribulations on my youtube channel. If I had the video camera I filmed training and trials and put them there. Good, bad, and ugly.

Where are all your videos of your dog trialing ? Training ? Good, bad and ugly ? See, the difference is that I am out there for all to see. I make mistakes, have things that I know that I do not train well, and during seminars and training sessions that I give, I point them out. All of them.

You on the other hand, hide like a little child afraid to get spanked. It is ok, most people on the internet are the same way, God forbid someone saw your dog do a less than perfect performance

Lets face it, the best you can do, is to try and make people think that all I do is kick my dog day in and day out. How pathetic. Something that I expect from you. I mean, that really is all you have. You figure if someone made fun of your dog and his weakness's that would hurt you very badly. Your ego would be crushed. 

My ego does not reside in my dog. He has strengths and weakness's just like any other dog. Just like your dog. However, my dog was out there competing, and your dog ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I do not have a starter pistol. We did not train with a starter pistol, and yes, you can see he comes and finds me when the gun is fired. On the flee attack, the gun was fired....... after the decoy got up, I didn't see him running to find me then. If anything, he won't return on the whistle, but of course, to you that is a nerve bag. See where this is going ? That is right, you cannot read a dog to save your life. Where is your video of your dog taking down a decoy ? I have several. It happens a lot with a dog like Buko..... you know, the "nerve bag"

I know I got your hopes up by not responding right away. Sorry to disappoint, and sorry that I had to spank you. It was for your own good.

sorry, but if gun shyness, brow beaten OB and poor nerves is what you see, i seriously am going to look at every post you make about another dog in a very different light.

Jeff I see you're out making new friends again.


Keith Jenkins

zdog,
Have you seen the video I am referring too?  Have you seen the videos of Jeff kicking his dog?  Jeff portrays himself as a "National" level competitor, the greatest trainer alive, no one else can train or handle his dogs and every other dog is a "shitter."  I think Buko is a decent dog, but the pressure from Jeff's poor handling and training has taken it's toll.  A dog that runs from gunfire on a long down has an issue, plain and simple.  Either poor nerves or to much stress in training putting the dog on edge for fear of a correction.  Jeff explains it by saying he couldn't get a blank gun to train with, that is a bunch of BS.  I never like to point out weaknesses in someone elses dog, I realize there is no perfect dog.  But what an inflammatory A hole, that bashes world class dogs for being happy in their work and states that woman can't train dogs; his many flaws need to be pointed out so newcomers know exactly what this internet expert is all about. 

Yes, Jeff most dogs in drive will bypass a blank gun to engage the decoy.  A dog with high drive will get through fire to get the decoy, not the same thing.  Low drive, in obedience which is stress from you vs high drive releasing it's anxiety and getting away from you going after the decoy.  Often times you can get a better picture of a dog in OB then you can in bitework.  A dog bypassing a blank gun to get a decoy in full suit doesn't show all that much.  Him not returning to you on the "flee attack" is another training issue.   It seems it all comes back to your training. 

My ego does not reside in my dog. He has strengths and weakness's just like any other dog. Just like your dog. However, my dog was out there competing, and your dog ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


Obviously not, your ego rides on insulting women and being a colossal moron on internet forums.  My dog works every day on the street.  Unlike you, I do not have 3 years to prepare for a trial and then hope things go well.  If my dog bolts under gunfire I have serious issues.  Unlike you, I don't get to do it over and try again.  I don't get to train for another year and hope things go better next time.  I had to fight a guy that was high on Meth yesterday, threatening to kill his family.  My dog did an awesome job.  I couldn't be happier with how he performed and assisted me in a very volatile, combative situation.  My dog has taken down decoys as well as real bad guys not wearing equipment, intent on really fighting, not shaking bottles with ribbons at him.  That in itself is really not a big deal to me, what decent dog can't take down a decoy? 

http://clubmondio.info/nationals/ 


That's the link to the video I am referring too.  If I were you I wouldn't bash the WUSV dogs like Javir, since your heeling skills are mediocre at best.  That is my point, don't bash other people who have succeeded at levels you never will, train dogs you could never handle and accomplish things you simply won't.  If you simply spoke about training with out your condescending, know it all, god's gift to training attitude I might have a shred of respect for you.  Your ego unfortunately resides in bashing strangers on the internet and stirring up crap. 

I have to go to work, my "sport" dog may have another trial today. 

  

I don't know if I've seen that video.  I have seen some though of Buko, and I like him.  We all have training issues, doesn't mean none of us can train.  i've never trained with Jeff nor met him.

I think a lot of people are jumping on him for what they want him to be saying, and not what he's actually saying. 

I have no opinion on whether or not women handlers are weakening any breed.  Most of the dogs I'd consider a strong dog, were not handled by women, and the few that were, well the results weren't usually that good.  Admittedly one was a terrible handler from the start, and the other has proven to be a good handler and has been in national and international comps but it was a disaster with that dog.

Most of the dogs I see that people call strong and intense and everything else, are good dogs, but not what I'd call a strong dog, but we all have different definitions. 

I've seen more than one dog get up from gunfire and it had nothing to do with bad nerves.  I've seen plenty others where it did.  Anytime a dog doesn't do what we want it to we could point to "poor" training.  Things have happened to myself and plenty of others I know that have proven themselves to be very good trainers, that I know it's not always 'poor' training that is to blame. 

 Again I,ve watched all the video,s posted I havent seen anything that any women could not handle. All the dogs are working in high prey drive.
 I would ask that some one here post a dog that in there opinion is too much dog for a women to handle and a video to highliite the case?.

 I will say that many of the dogs look like there waiting for the other shoe to drop right on there heads I,m hoping that isn,t the idea of "to much dog" I never claimed myself to be all that and a bag of chips believe my I leave a lot to be desired in the handler definition. So will some one enlighten me with a dog they feel is "too much dog" I really want to be enlightened. There is a lot of dancing around but no one giving good examples.