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darylehret

by darylehret on 27 April 2012 - 18:04

"Knowledge and experience."

I WHOLEheartedly agree.  I would love to see training and experience mandated, at least for everyone in the field.  Deskjockeys and labrats I suppose wouldn't matter.


momosgarage

by momosgarage on 27 April 2012 - 18:04

"Not everyone is an animal person "

Which goes back to why I said, "fear of dogs or lack of experience with dogs, should instantly disqualify someone from becoming a LEO ""

Imagine if dealing with a barking, but not aggressive dog in close quarters was a part of the screening process for hiring LEO's?  If someone can't deal with that, how are they going to handle REAL life threatening  stressors?

"no animal/dog experience, no badge"

beetree , I gave a way for LEO's to meet the above standard, can you think of some other way?  I think its clear today that many LEO's need that experience, otherwise they are putting the public at risk due to thier ignorance.  In the cases I've been seeing on the news, the officers FEAR is causing these animals deaths. 

Its not acceptable and local governments need to come up with some solutions.

by beetree on 27 April 2012 - 18:04

I have to continue to disagree. We are talking about the personalities and the innate traits of individual people, and to deny someone that is capable in every way of the profession of LEO because they never really mesh with animals, is so single-mindedly absurd, IMO. K9 LEO's are specialty, I would say. Seems obvious to me. 

You got it backwards, and I think that is what the OP is addressing, that it is the public at large that needs to remove their ignorance. Turns out the story on the page before, the person ended up doing the right thing...they got the K9 officer to respond, and all ended well.

JMHO

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 27 April 2012 - 19:04

I think the public at large should protect themselves and their property. Forget about training the Police, they are supposed to be Police, they follow orders.

But when it get's outta hand like now where they disregard life, family and property ... you need to PROTECT YOURSELF and your PROPERTY. Nomore pets and children getting made examples of .. we need to prepare to take on the system if (and I hope it never does) it ever hits us, our family or our pets.

They kill or cripple my dog or child at home  -  you best believe I'm going to make the example. I'll sell every damn thing I own, believe it.

This is post Nixon days (War on everything)... we need to fight power with power. Ane believe it or not we have us a Bill of Rights - OWN IT. And if you got it (money) you best invest and insure in yourself, your family and your property NOW for safe keeping.

Christ they are groppin crippled 4 year olds at airports and making grannies remove depends now adays .. they WILL shoot your dog given the chance !!


darylehret

by darylehret on 27 April 2012 - 20:04

It's not absurd when coming into contact with the animals goes with the territory of the job.  Would it be absurd to deny a navy seal who has fear of the water?

Gigante

by Gigante on 27 April 2012 - 20:04

beetree, whats single mindedly upsurd about training an officer how to deal with something without shooting it, something he/she is going to run into often on the job. Go find another job if you have a problem with animals and prefer to shoot them rather then be trained.

 

I wish this only happened to people who care far much less for there animals, then normal people. Unfortutley it doesn't.


by beetree on 27 April 2012 - 20:04

That's not what I said....learning the how's to deal with animals in a seminar would be brilliant. Making A/C a pre-requisite to all LEO's because some pets end up sadly as collateral damage, is really just a knee jerk reaction to do something. Let's do something, I agree, but let's make it the right thing.

And please don't make this into I care more about my animals than you do... because that isn't the point at all, and it certainly can't be proved.

Gigante

by Gigante on 27 April 2012 - 20:04

Its exactly what you said. You knee jerked a reaction to a very good idea. Shoot it down if you can. I have seen and heard a crap load of ideas, and thats the best so far. 

 

Although its not the point and all things unproved are not false, thats the argument thats always touted collateral damage & so sad move on. I don't want to move on. Don't kill peoples pets because your an ignoramus and choose to fire first and ask questions later.

 

Kill peoples pet's when there is no other choice, kill peoples pets when a human life is at risk, kill peoples pets because you made a split second choice and it was wrong choice, but split second.

 

Please don't kill peoples pet's because your an idiot and your bosses said in the bathroom that it was ok... 

 

OK


by beetree on 27 April 2012 - 21:04

You make it sound like every pet encountered ends up shot and dead, come on. You need realistic expectations, not pie in the sky hopes. There are good and bad people doing either good or bad, everywhere. We can't keep adding specialty limits, I mean what comes after, from a mandatory assessement of being determinded, what... "being good with dogs"... (what will that mean any way?) What would be next? RN training mandatory for encountering diabetics going into coma's? Special Education shadowing for the autistic? Where would it end?

There will always be death's that can be avoided, no one denies that, but thinking we can control the police selection with everything for a zero possibility, is the madness.

Gigante

by Gigante on 27 April 2012 - 22:04

beetree, I inferred nothing like that. Jumping to ridiculous is not an argument. One reason why more instances dont end up with a dead dog is many officers are simply unwilling to shoot peoples pets wily nilly. No matter what was disscussed in the bathroom. 


I dont care if your good with dogs, I care that you respect who you serve and respect life. Take it only when neccesary, is that pie in the sky?  From a straight PR standpoint the deskjockies should understand that losing John publics support on tardo bathroom policy will come back to bite you. Despite your armory you have no weapon greator then our grandmas broom. When you stop laughing, review any riot footage!

  By all means, point to the one that you find unrealistic.

Kill peoples pet's when there is no other choice, kill peoples pets when a human life is at risk, kill peoples pets because you made a split second choice and it was wrong choice, but split second.

 





 


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