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by Gigante on 11 June 2012 - 00:06
New Law Supports Citizens Using Deadly Force Against Rogue Cops
The National Rifle Association has been pushing for a law that would allow citizens the right to defend themselves without prosecution against a violent, unjustified attack by police officers. Well they got it. Indiana is the first U. S. state to specifically allow force against officers.
Before everyone gets up in arms, this is not about some guy getting pulled over and shooting a police officer and then claiming he was using self defense. This has all been based upon the issue of police officers coming to the wrong place and terrorizing people by busting down their doors or breaking in without a warrant.
While some police officers are worried about serving warrants, I’m sure that is not the result of this new law. I would imagine anytime an officer has to go and serve a warrant it is a tense moment. In some cases it is life threatening. However with the number of break ins without warrants and the rising number of those being at the wrong address, the law is needed to protect those who are dwelling in their homes when these things happen.
Often the police officers are not reprimanded or fired. A mere apology may or may not be given. In some circumstances money is paid for damage done, but that is the extent of it.
In reference to the new law BusinessWeek reports,
The measure was approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature and signed by Republican Governor Mitch Daniels in March. It amended a 2006 so-called Castle Doctrine bill that allows deadly force to stop illegal entry into a home or car.
The law describes the ability to use force to “protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force.”
Republican state Senator R. Michael Young, the bill’s author, said there haven’t been any cases in which suspects have used the law to justify shooting police.
He said “public servant” was added to clarify the law after a state Supreme Court ruling last year that “there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” The case was based on a man charged with assaulting an officer during a domestic-violence call.
According to Young, “There are bad legislators. There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”
Governor Mitch Daniels said in a statement that the law requires that those using force to “reasonably believe” that a law enforcement officer is acting illegally and that the action against the officer is to prevent “serious bodily injury.”
“In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels continued. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”
All I can say is it’s about time the citizens got some protection in these narrowly defined instances.
by beetree on 11 June 2012 - 02:06
the smell... just permeates.
by ggturner on 11 June 2012 - 03:06
Moderators, please do not allow posters to hijack this thread and continue bashing law enforcement.
by GSD Admin on 11 June 2012 - 04:06
And GG you have complained about this thread to the admins and we responded as a group, which was a unanimous decision, written by us as a group of 5 admins. We explained why we let topics wander and you said thank you, that should be it if this thread upsets you please please ignore it.
And how come you are not complaining about Beetree being off topic? Or is it only the people who have a different opinion than you? Do you really want us to keep all threads completely on topic or are you going to cherry pick the ones you don't like or the members you don't like to keep them on topic?
This is about control and some members need to think about what may happen when a thread is started and their lack of ability to control the direction of a thread once started. Not post 10's of threads and then when ONE goes in a slightly different direction then they want try to control the members who have a different opinion and then when that doesn't work start trying to control the admins with comments like above.
I will ask you again GG, how come you haven't complained about Beetrees off topic diarrhea non-sense?
by darylehret on 11 June 2012 - 04:06
by beetree on 11 June 2012 - 11:06
Why the OP is questioned on their intent is plenty proof, I would say. And don't make this about me. I'm just convenient for a whipping post(er).
The simplest truth is, if this thread were locked, it would be appropriate. And then any number of people who feel the world needs to have LEO's exposed in a way that ensures they are continually bashed, are free to start a new thread. The fact is GG's name is on this thread and it bothers her.
by 4 mals2sheps on 11 June 2012 - 13:06
by ggturner on 11 June 2012 - 13:06
I will ask you again GG, how come you haven't complained about Beetrees off topic diarrhea non-sense? |
Because beetree did not initiate the off topic post, she only responded to it. Gigante continues to make posts on this thread to get it off topic for his/her own agenda.
I did thank you gsdadmin for responding to my pm and at least considering what I asked because I was attempting to be polite. I do not agree with you however on allowing this thread to continue.
by beetree on 11 June 2012 - 13:06
The fact is GG's name is on this thread and it bothers her. |
That is what is being ignored.
by GSD Admin on 11 June 2012 - 15:06
At least gigantes post is about police and not an off topic snipe from a member who has a history of off topic sniping.
Now if you really want this thread to die off then let it be.
GG you have said yourself in other threads that if a person doesn't like a thread then stay out of it and ignore it. This thread would have been dead days ago but you guys have to say something everytime it gets posted to which just makes people want to post more.
GG, is this thread about law enforcement? If so then really none of those posts are off topic.
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