American x West German showline crosses? - Page 24

Oh yeah, all the newbies who don't know any better and didn't do their homework and the people who are not able or don't want to deal with a GSD bred to even minimum SV standards.  I forgot about all of them.  Of course there will always be someone ready and willing to jump up fill that sad niche to make some bank, doesn't make it right.  

Look, most everybody here is painfully aware you have no intention of changing what you are doing, no matter what.  Go ahead keep pretending you are an ethical breeder and keeper of the true GSD standard if that's what you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.  Whatever.

I know you will now come back with more ridiculous justifications and excuses for breeding ASS shitters.  Please don't mistake my future silence for acquiescence in any way shape or form.

"I know you will now come back with more ridiculous justifications and excuses for breeding ASS shitters."

Just because you do not or cannot appreciate a certain feature does not mean that other people must not. It is called choice. Live with it.

This dog only has a moderate roach.

Show me another veterbrate animal that is supposed to, in its most healthy state, have a curvature in its spine like this?

Can you name another animal?

Except the animal associated with a cigerrette.

Not a very bad roach, but really excellent?

Actually, the most immediate reason why I have GSDs is not because I initially appreciated the special beauty of the Am Showline. I was choosing among the Rott, the Dobe and the GSD. I thought I would get an import, if GSD.  I ran into this line almost by chance. I did not think I appreciated movement in this line of GSDs until I encountered it. Their  beauty and movement were very delightful, captivating at once

Several years ago I took in a stray GSD, female. No line, poor angulation. It took me a couple of hours to lure her into my custody. For a couple of weeks I put her in an old dog run.  After a week she became very affectionate. I put up posters throughout the neigborhood but no response.  Then it managed to unlock the latch and escaped. My Ridgebacks had lived there for years and could never do that.

One night after more than three weeks, at about 2-3 am, I heard a loud scratching sound. I thought the sound came from my old Ridgebacks. I woke up again, the sound come from the front door. When I openned the door there she was. She managed to find me again among the  maze of look-alike tract homes after more than three weeks. I never took her out for the  two weeks she was with me.

The GSD have a lot to offer, even a on-line poor angulation GSD can have a lot of assets. Beauty and movement are two important assets to many people, special intelligence may be to the same people.

No, the people that buy a pup do so because they are not informed, I know because I at one time was one of them.  I still don't understand your aversion to posting a pic of your dogs, are they really that bad??

"No, the people that buy a pup do so because they are not informed,"

Just because you were not informed doesn't mean that others are not. Yes, the are informed.

This attitude that  people cannot place very high value on beautiy in form and motion must be unique to a certain mindset, a very engimatic one.

Honestly, I cannot care less if you do not like American Showline Champions and Select Champions. Many very informed people do. Live with it.

Please do not litter with "fear biters" or "sick" unless one has at least a suggestion as to why, I am not looking for proof, just a suggestion.

How many of you haters of the Am Showline, ardent adherent to the concept that a GSD must do certain kinds of work, register your GSD with the AKC?  

The AKC places the GSD in the herding group, together with the sheltie.

Must both sheties and the GSD herd.

You don't like the AKC, yet you support it with your registration fee. Why?

May be you should start your GWD club and go alone, never mind that most pup buyers want AKC. I think many of you do not have the conviction that you think you have.

"Beauty, like pornography, is in the eye of the beholder."

The practical value of SchH and many other kinds of works, like beauty, is highly subjective. We all should live with it.

Actually, I admire both working abilities and beauty in form and motion. I cannot see so many here seem to be so lopsided in judgement. Why? A breed is in ruin? There are many lines in a breed, and the name GSD is open to modification. The ideal of a German guy who lived so long ago for a "breed" is not pertinent.

Nature created 99% of the GSD as an animal; a German man came by a hundred years ago and "created" 1% in a breed.

Moreover, it is often said that art and porn are sometimes difficult to differentiate; but generally the people who are able to present either are quite attractive, and beautiful.  Yes, either art or porn  still indicates the phyiscal attribute of the presenter. Thank you very much.

Seen them in AKC show and do not like them. Do not like the temperaments, nor their looks. AKC Should recosider and it would be wonderfull if people Here in America were Happy with FCI standards but it is not possible because they would piss A LOT of people Off and loose money.
I personally know people who want to have UKC AKC and so on registrered dog, just to say they do.. even though couple look like Sthit and are out of standard (not GSD just dogs).
so maybe pionting fingers when people dissagree with breeding Am lines and tellin them to go against the only organization that pople care about to have on a paper??? is foolish. I think that these days are comming to the end as I have seen couple of AKC GDS breeders throw more German lines in to it even though they like Am lines better. When I asked why.. they said Pssst but this is comming to the end
For whatever you wanna take it.. i think that FCI and German Breeders have been talking about renaming Am line GSd to American sheep dog for some time now... and Breeders in America do not wan to do that.. maybe is time to pla by rules and keep the standard within its limit.