another broken hearted ajaye client - Page 2

Melissa is the one that had no compassion for man or animal. Sorry again for your loss again. I think I could no longer breathe if my Galaxy von Ajaye was no longer here.

decker, Why do you must be so cold hearted? Get a fricken LIFE and have some respect for the feelings of others!!!

This is why dogs that carry aortic arch stenosis, vegal nerve conduction disorders or abnnormal cardiac sinus arythmias should not be bred. These sires and dams are often culled out and sold to unsuspecting buyers who want to import snd breed GSDs. Mild aortic arch stenosis often won't show up in a puppy at all (only the most experienced vet will be able to hear it). When the dog gets older the restriction worsens. When these dogs become adults they often will drop dead with no warning or any prior symptoms after mild exercise. Strange cardiac arythmias (including abnormal sinus arythmias--all dogs have a normal sinus arythmia at rest) can only be heard by a very experienced vet and can only be confirmed with a special EKG analysis. In the USA there is apparently only one place that can analyze these properly and your vet can e-mail them the EKG for proper analysis (all of these problems are genetic and intensified by linebreeding). I once lost a puppy suddenly from a stroke due to a vascular abnormality in the brain. This is always extremely painful for the owner who loves their GSD. Sorry to hear about your great loss. These tragedies certainly make one consider the benefits of properly done outcrossing from long term health conscious breeders that monitor their progeny.

UPSMAN I do not know anything about Melissa/Klobe or Von Ajaye My sympathies for your loss. I have one thing to say It is unfair to blame the breeder if your dog dies at the age of three out of Heart attack Are you sure that your dog was given enough excercise and proper diet??? In India where I belong Heart attack is the most common killer of humans. And this is attribuited to theie sedentary life style and improper diet.

It would be helpful if the pedigree of the dog was made available. What was the breeding on Mars? If I calculate correctly, my dog who was born in Feb. 2003 was a "G" von Ajaye, and you say your dog is an "M" von Ajaye, my dog is 3 1/2 years of age and your dog is 3 years of age, that means that Melissa had 6 litters in 6 months. One thing is for sure, she did not have that many brood bitches. Does Mars go by another registered name?

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, I know you must be going through a very hard time right now :( I know how it is to loose a dog just this way (one of my dogs, a Rottie died just the same way years ago)...its even more upsetting because there is nothing you could have done...Its probably not just a fluke, there is a well known German bloodline that is VERY frequently used and commonly/heavily linebred on that produces this defect. Its an irregularity in the heart, its very hard to detect and very often leads to cardiac arrest at a very age. Your dog was probably a product of a similar bloodline :(

Amir et al, This is not the Upman's fault. Ajaye has been the continued source of pain and suffering for many GSD buyers over the years. Not only does/did she breed way too many litters in very unsanitary conditions, many buyers were left with dogs and no papers, a different dog that the one they thought they purchased, sick and dying puppies, and cheated in many other ways too numerous too remember. When looking for restitution, Ajaye has never been anywhere to be found. Her poor reputation is well known and well documented in the GSD world. Had Upsman's dog been bred by a caring breeder, I doubt anyone would be making the comments they are making. Last I knew Ajaye has moved on to another breed and is always in transit hiding from the authorities. Too many GSD buyers are looking fof her. If you want more, just search this board using "Ajaye". All we need to do is a bit of calculating to figure out that Ajaye sold 7 litters out of a travel trailer located somewhere between Florida and New Youk in February 2003. What does that tell you? This is another time when the buyer is taking it in the shorts for the lack of ethics of the breeder. It's is not his fault he got an unhealthy dog. He did nothing wrong. Give him a break, his dog is dead, isn't that enough?

I don't know the breeder or the owner, and I certainly can identify with the pain of loosing these friends, I have lost a few in my day. But they are living, breathing beings. Even the slightest implication of "breeder at fault" because the animal died is not fair in my opinion. You can share your loss without "pointing fingers". A loss is a loss, and it hurts. No breeder, NOT ONE, can deliver a perfect animal that will live for as long as you want it too. I would like to know MORE about the animal, like:1)typoe of heartworm preventative it was on(did it have heartworms at the time of death and was being given a prventative medication), 2)type of diet it was on, 3)weight of the animal, 4)type of daily activity it was involved in, 5)toxins around the house(such as snake away, weed killers, ect, 6)type of medications it was on(Rymadil, ect) and on and on. This is how we isolate possible problems and help each other avoid simular pitfalls. Even if the dog was born with a heart defect and it was his day for the heart to fail, I am not so sure the "breeder" knew about it and sold it with knowledge of the outcome that you experienced. If you are going to get involved with live animals you have to expect the unexpected. It appears that the "reputable" breeders only produce dogs that cause no problems and the puppy mills/backyard breeders always breed problem animals, by definition of the claims and charges read on this site. Your buddy gave you hours of pleasure and companionship and pleasure in his short life. Be grateful for it and relish those memories. Some folk don't even realize what it is to enjoy that relationship, you are among the truly fortunate. Holding "ajaye", or whoever he is, responsible is not going to assuage your pain. I seriously doubt if he knew your puppy had a ticking time bomb, when he sold it to you. Side note: There was a well known showline German Shepherd that died from apparent bloat a couple of months ago at the young age of 5, and the entire GSD community mourned his loss. Quite unexpected, indeed. The breeder is well respected and a magnicifent lady. It was not the breeder's fault that the dog died at age 5, instead of age 15. Nor was your dogs breeder at fault. Stephen

Sometimes things happen in "life". That is what "life" is all about. Not alsways is it someone else's "fault", that "life events", occur.

Sunshine-- Knowing all gone down I find it amazing you would give credit to Melissa that litters were actually alphabatized! V litter born 15 August 2001 was in reality Dirk's V litter--- NOT her's. I think you are calculating unknowns from the gitgo--- And we would "assume" a von Ajaye pedigree would be absolutely accurate without witnessing the breeding? My heart goes out to UPSMAN--- A horrible and heart wrenching loss as they are for all of us. To put it in a personal perspective---- I underwent a heart transplant 25 April this year and I am not sure how much more, if any, it affected me than the loss of my Anja in July, 10 days before her 14th birthday and then my Katrin 10 days later less than a month before her 13th. There is no "right time", "good time", or "EASY TIME". Warmest personal regards, UPSMAN! Morgan