mom eating pups - Page 4

Whatever, 4pack. You are the expert.

Whatever Blitzen, bever said I was an expert. What crawled up your butt today anyway? Your usually mild mannered. I post my experiences and occasionaly my opinion. You don't have to like it, but I don't hide crap or lie. I see no point in hiding the truth of what goes on, good or bad. How are others going to learn, when they only read the fluffed version?

4pack, honestly if you don't understand why it is offensive to me to hear that rather than pay for an emergency vet visit, you would chose to "get rid of" a puppy in another way, I don't know what more I can say. Look, I don't want to argue with you about this. You do it your way, it's your business, not mine. I happen to find it upsetting to read that a GSD breeder won't pay for a vet to put down a sick puppy. Also, you are the first person I've ever heard say that "many breeders cull all females in their lines..........." I would certainly hope that is not true. That's what crawled up my butt today. Now can we just move on?

Ok well keep closing your eyes then and you wont know. Yes I chose to save my vet a day off and myself enough $ to feed my dogs for a couple months. $ may not make the world go round but without it, not much gets accomplished. I'm not in a position to throw my dollars away. I already did that purchasing the pups mother. Death is death, as long as it comes swiftly and doesn't linger on painfully, what is the difference how it takes place? We all gotta go sometime, we just hope it's swift and mercifull.

4 pack, I have no idea how long you have been breeding dogs or even how long you have even owned a dog. However, I must ask didn't you think it was going to cost you money for vet care? Yes, vets charge a lot for an emergency call, but it's part of breeding dogs. I certainly hope that newcomers don't get the idea that all breeders kill their own puppies rather than pay the vet to do it. I've never been a wealthy person myself, but I'll be damned if I've ever killed one of my puppies to save on the vet bill. I'd ahve gone without food first. This is just about the worst thing I've ever read on this board and that's saying a mouthful.

Blitzen, the reason this is the worst thing you have heard is, I am the only one who tells it like it is. I'm not affraid to fess up unlike others who just brush it under the carpet. I figured someone would have issues with my post, but ya know what? I can take what you can dish out. "Offing" a puppy is offing a puppy. Your the one who ultimately makes the decision for the puppy to die. Taking it to the vet doesn't make you ritious. Get over yourself.

How many reading this kill their own puppies to save on the vet bill? "Offing a puppy is offing a puppy"? I do not for one minute believe that most do that and brush it under the carpet. You can think of me as righteous if you want, but I've never killed a dog myself to save money. If that's being righteous then so be it.

LOL Blitzen, you say killed a dog, like it wasn't already dying. Should I have left it to "nature" or it's mother to chew to pieces? Maybe if I didn't pay such close attention to my litter, I wouldn't have noticed the pup slipping away. Then I could say it just died. Any ther day I would have taken it to the vet to be put down but that wasn't an option for that day. I had 10 minutes to make a decision. I could have called the vet on a Suday evening and then drove an hour after picking up my daughter and we could have both watched the puppy drift away on our drive and cried at it's suffering the rest of the evening. I didn't want my daughter who I was due to pick up in 10 minutes to have to see the puppy in that condition. Above that, I didn't want to see the poor thing suffer another minute than it had to. It wasn't solely about the $. It was unneeded suffering for the animal,an emotional hell for me and my daughter and a vet who would have to be called in on her day off. What I did was handle "MY" business in the best manor I saw fit for MY situation at the time. Anyway, I'm not going to go tit for tat with you about this all day. We agree to disagree.

Nex time take the puppy to the vets and I'll pay the bill.

I hope I did not start this one... Blitzen and 4Pack I sit back and read your several lasts posts and honestly I can see both sides... Blitzen you know I manage the shelter here, There are times I'm called to a large animal who has been struck by a vehicle and the damage is great and it is determined that the animal simply can not survive the injuries.. Do we move that animal cause it further pain or shoot it ? well I will tell you It's shot in almost every single case it is Shot in the head to swiftly end the suffering. 4Pack Maybe a simple explanation of the puppy's dire condition would avoid the mis understanding next time, I do agree don't let an animal suffer. But I will never agree that culling is a practice that is common these days. If it is then we are all doing something very wrong with breeding practices. I can see both sides here, But still agree the APPROPRIATE is euthanasia with the vet.