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by rony on 21 September 2003 - 23:09

In an excellent 1995 interview(wwww.schutzhund.com/art/wmartini.htm),walter martin affirm that there is only two bloodlines in germany.The first from the canto and quanto lines ("same line, product of close breeding")but he says nothing about the second one. Anybody can instruct me ? Many thanks

djc

by djc on 22 September 2003 - 02:09

Canto Wienerau and Quanto Wienerau are 2 very differnt bloodlines. Canto being the one that everyone in his liked his conformation, but his working abilities and temerament were VERY questionable!! Hence he was only rated V. Quanto on the other hand had and produced VERY nice working abilities and also VA conformation. Deb

by rony on 22 September 2003 - 10:09

Hi Deb. Thanks fr yr reply but the martin brothers disagrees . Here is what they say: WM: "Out of the first litter with Bertha I had two females. One went to Ernie Loeb in the United States. It was the first dog I sold to the U.S.A. The other female which I kept, Ws the mother of the 1961 intermediate Sieger Elch Wienerau. In the litter after that came Dixie Wienerau. Dixie in combination with Jalk Fohlenbrunnen gave me the "L" litter Wienerau, and all the dogs that have the colors you see today in my kennel (deep mahogany red and black) come from Liane. Liane was Canto Wienerau’s mother. And Quanto was the product of an inbreeding 2,2 on Dixie. At that time this close breeding was allowed." RC: "So although we always speak of the Canto and Quanto ‘lines’ they were really from the same line." WM: "Absolutely. They were the product of close breeding...We do not have many lines in Germany. We have basically two main lines" So my question was if canto and Quanto were from the same line which is the second one ?

by Vorupoer on 23 August 2005 - 22:08

Hi Rony, the second bloodline is Mutz von der Pelztierfarm. (http://www.deutscherschaeferhund.com/En/Laius%20Moorbeck_E.htm) Bye Britta





 


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