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by starrchar on 27 June 2012 - 02:06
by Jenni78 on 27 June 2012 - 02:06
by Markobytes on 27 June 2012 - 02:06
by joanro on 27 June 2012 - 03:06
by Niesia on 27 June 2012 - 06:06
In my sale contracts I ask for puppy back before giving another puppy or any monetary refund. I also state that it is at my discretion to allow the puppy to remain with the buyer. It never happened to me and I would probably didn't ask for the puppy back if I trusted the 'case'. Fellow breeders that have been doing it for a long time complain a lot about 'guarantee users' that claim that the puppy is 'flawed' and requesting refund or another puppy. Later on, the breeders find out that the puppy was OK and they are out another puppy or cash - Main reason why such clause exists. Main reason why breeders insist on official OFA rating before accepting claim of HD or other documented genetic issues. Main reasons why breeders reserve a right to a second veterinary opinion...
I've been a witness of a lady claiming that the dog she purchased was 'genetically flawed' and it had to be 'bad breeding' as it became stranger aggressive and she wanted a replacement pup. She only forgot to mention that she kept that pup alone in an outdoor kennel from the age of 8 wks to 8 months without any socialization and malnourished him... Should that breeder give her another puppy to 'take care of'?... The breeder insisted on taking the puppy back before refunding her money. After 5 weeks of training the pup was re-homed with no 'aggression issues'. Obedience training, socialization, taking dog for a walk on a leash (for the first time in his life), bringing him back to health and a right owner - it was all that it took to take care of his 'genetic flaw'.
by kitkat3478 on 27 June 2012 - 13:06
by joanro on 27 June 2012 - 13:06
by starrchar on 27 June 2012 - 13:06
I got my pup at 3 1/2 months of age. I did everything right re: diet, exercise, etc. At 4 1/2 months I noticed he wasn't moving right. I took him to the vet and he had severe dysplasia- he barely had any hip sockets left. I found out later that most of the litter died- don't know any other details. I see getting a pup or dog as a committment for its lifetime and not something to return when defective. I have a hard time understanding why that kind of committment should be penalized by a breeder unless he/she wants the pup back to euthanize it and pretend it never happened. I would not expect the breeder to pay for the surgery, but at least give me my money back. Joanro, I don't blame the breeder of my pup for producing a defective pup- it happens. I still think this breeder could've done something. Breeders like this perpetuate the throw away attitude in buyers IMO. In order to get New puppy I had to throw away the first one. Well, that just doesn't sit well with me.
by Niesia on 27 June 2012 - 17:06
Starrchar, my heart goes out to everybody who has had the misfortune to get a pup that isn't well. Everybody, who buys a puppy wants him to turn out perfect. From what you wrote it still looks like your expectation was to keep the 'product' and get your money back. Did you not know going in, that getting your money back required returning the puppy? If you chose to keep the 'product', don't blame the breeder for not getting your money back.
I see an attitude on this forum that breeders should be responsible for everything that owners decide to do with the pup. When things become emotional buyers don't see the breeder's side of the story (the contract that the buyer and breeder entered into). Choices made by the owner after that, are beyond the breeder's control. Nobody wants to talk or even think about the fact that it is sometimes necessary (and in the best interest of the animal) to euthanize an unwell puppy. I have seen situations where it made an owner feel better about himself to spend thousands of $ on a dog that would have been better off euthanized.
This particular owner was trying to convince himself and others that the dog was better off going through all those surgeries and therapies. He was even bragging about how much he spent on this dog's hips: "I've spent $14,000 on the experimental stem cell surgeries (University lab), that didn't really help." (+ all the meds, hip surgery, etc.). I feel bad for the dog, but I would have been more impressed by the owner if he had spent that money donating it to a local shelter in the name of his dog. I know, many will say - how dare you say such thing. But I look at this poor dog, that has to think twice before taking a step (I have never seen that dog trot or run) - and the owner says - I did everything I could and he's fine. Is he blind not to see the pain in that dogs eyes?
by beetree on 27 June 2012 - 17:06
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