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by GSDPACK on 18 July 2012 - 04:07

toy possession exercises.

EuroShepherd

by EuroShepherd on 18 July 2012 - 05:07


The longer he's with helser, the less potential he'll have. 
I noticed the bitework video shows this "hard-hitting" "full gripping" dog is being worked with a soft puppy sleeve.

First thought to my mind also was "who is the dog's owner? do they know it's for sale?"

by Bob McKown on 18 July 2012 - 14:07


 Helser has it so you know it,s either stolen or gotten thru a scam after all it,s Helser!. He now Has Molly Graff suppling him with dogs. I guess birds of a feather as they would say.

 I,ve seen his video,s and watched dogs he has "trained" and it,s a joke. His club members(or followers as they say in most cults) are sycophants but what they don,t understand is he is one of the biggest jokes and scam artists in the dog world. I believe the best part of him stained the sheets during his conception!. 

 

by eichenluft on 18 July 2012 - 15:07

The dog I "supplied" him is a rescued dog that had a bite history, and would bite with no provocation or reason.  I couldn't and wouldn't keep the dog for rehoming.  I had two choices - put the dog down, or turn her over to someone who was willing to take her.  Timothy was the only one willing to take her.  I signed her over to him with him agreeing to no liability for me if she bit anyone while in his care or after he placed her.  It was my choice to try to give this dog life instead of killing her - I think it was the right choice.  I hope the dog does well for Timothy and I hope Timothy does right by the dog.  That's all she wrote - "supplying dogs" for Timothy Helser, I think not.

molly

by Bob McKown on 18 July 2012 - 16:07


 I quote:

 " It was my choice to try to give this dog life instead of killing her "

 What ever excuse you need to let your self sleep at night. In all honesty How many people on this board would Do 1 of 3 things.

 #1 Keep the dog and attempt to home it properly if not keep it your self.
 #2 Try working with the dog and after a fair attempt to evaluate it have it euthanized for it,s and the public,s and the breeds own good.
 #3  Supply it to Tim Helser and attempt to wash your hands of it.

 I,m figuring the biggest percentage would answer 1 and 2 and if it would be three I,m sure no would pick Helser.

 I,m not the one on you tube in one of Tims propaganda videos smiling and joyously turning over a dog that would be better of with a kiss on the forhead and the big blue shot. But hey I,m a realist.

 Anyone who gives Tim Helser a dog especially some one WHO should know better needs to reevaluate there direction for the well being of dogs.


Any dog is worth more then being placed with a Conartist who degrades the breed and the sport and the legitimate practioneers of Schutzhund just by his very existance in the relm. 
 
 



 

by workingdogz on 18 July 2012 - 17:07

F*ck.
Seriously? You gave a dog to Tim Helser?

Thats a shitty way to treat a dog, no matter what
her issues were. If she were that bad, she should
have had a one way trip. 

Once again, I feel bad for the dog.
It's always the dogs that pay the price.
Always.  

Just makes me sick to think of it.




by eichenluft on 18 July 2012 - 17:07

She's spayed.  She's young and healthy and has issues that I didn't want to deal with to keep her myself.  If I kept her, she would have lived in my kennel the rest of her life - and she already bit two of my kennel help.  I made two appointments to put her down.  I cancelled, thinking she deserved a chance to live.  Timothy wanted to try to work with her.  I gave him the dog and yes I washed my hands of her and the liability she was to me to keep her as she was certainly not adoptable.  In return the dog got to live.  I think I made the right decision.  If I'm wrong then I will regret it.  So far I haven't seen PROOF that this dog or any other has been abused by Timothy.  And this drama-forum isn't the place I depend on for facts.


by beetree on 18 July 2012 - 17:07

cheekysad  DENIAL! UTTER COMPLETE, DISGUSTING, DENIAL!  I HOPE EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM SHOWS THEIR ABSOLUTE DISGUST!!!!

by Bob McKown on 18 July 2012 - 18:07


 So!

          The guy is enough of a schmuck that you would never put a Eichenluft dog with him but some rescue with a issue now thats okay!!!!

Thats nice. I guess it goes to character.

by beetree on 18 July 2012 - 20:07

No it is not nice! IT IS SICKENING! And apparently most people on this board don't give a shit. When shit floats to the top, they just get a stick and poke it around a bit and move it out of their way.







 


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