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by Betty on 26 July 2012 - 17:07

From Molly:  
offer was made before I "saw the light".  offer was withdrawn, and no I won't be communicating or dealing with Mr Helser in any way, ever again.

Thank you for anwsering.

I'm trying to understand here.  Why would you place a dog with anyone that you do not want to be associated with to the point of making it a condition of the placement?

What was the light?  Public scrutiny?  If his information is correct on when you made the offer of the  next dog that was long after you saw the videos of him with Karma which you disagreed with.  Or is it because you feel betrayed by him with the release of his videos?








Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 26 July 2012 - 17:07

These videos are all marked as private.  WTF?

by triodegirl on 26 July 2012 - 19:07

Good thing I made copies.

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 26 July 2012 - 19:07

I don't know this person from Adam but there are plenty of good dogs, breeders, clubs, trainers, and helpers around that I would probably never involve myself in anyone who seems to be surrounded by so much drama whether it was substantiated or not.  JMHO

by Dobermannman on 26 July 2012 - 20:07

Robert C "Bob" McKown wrote:


 Here is a deal:

                          If Tim buys a pup from a legitimate breeder, Raises and trains that pup hims self,Bh to a Sch3 and competes at a regionals not win just compete. I,ll never post another personnel opinion of him on the web again. I,ll even shake his hand at that point and congratulate him and it can be video,d. I even think it might go a long way to see him do it instead of hearing him talk about doing it.


Bob,

I'll make it even easier for Mr Helser. Take any puppy any breed from anywhere (rescue, rehome or gift)
HOT train it to SchH III (don't even have to trial at a Regional) a local club will do for all the titles at
any AWDF member club trial. I'll not only congratulate and shake his hand.
I"ll do it wearing one of your boa's :-)

Brandi

by Brandi on 26 July 2012 - 23:07

Betty,

Molly gave Karma to Tim and offered the other dog to Tim BEFORE these videos were published.

ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 26 July 2012 - 23:07

The defendent who can talk the most people into coming on here and vouching for them and their story
...wins.
...something
...I guess
...maybe.

by Betty on 26 July 2012 - 23:07

Brandi said
Molly gave Karma to Tim and offered the other dog to Tim BEFORE these videos were published.


I'm not sure why you are answering for Molly Brandi, but the videos I were referring too were the ones of Tim with Karma that I believe were taken the first day he had her, more then a few weeks ago.  Those were the ones that Molly referred to is an earlier post as training that she did not approve of and I believe she was a little more strong in her choice of words.  Those videos have been floating around for a bit.


I'm just very confused on what the "light" was.  I am very confused on why anyone would place a dog, rescue or not, with someone on the written condition that  they agree to keep it a state secret.

I'm sure your intentions are noble Brandi, but I would prefer that if anyone anwers the questions it is Molly herself.  Less room for misunderstanding that way!



Brandi

by Brandi on 27 July 2012 - 01:07

 Betty,
I'm not answering for Molly. You asked a question which I knew the answer to. I had watched all the videos. The timeline indicates and verifies my answer to you. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 "I am very confused"... yeah, you and everyone else. 
 
" I'm sure your intentions are noble Brandi,  but I would prefer that if anyone anwers the questions it is Molly herself. Less room for misunderstanding that way!"
... then don't post on an open discussion board, send Molly a private message.

BTY, I had no intentions of anything.


by Betty on 27 July 2012 - 01:07

I asked a question directly addressed to Molly about what prompted her decision and you jumped in and answered it Brandi.   If that is not answering for her I'm not sure what would be.  

I'm  not sure what prompted your snippy response but if I had wanted to address the question to Molly via pm I would of. 








 


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