Problem with Spoiled Brat Puppy - Page 2

Heh - I have the brat of all brats, she's the Queen Brat. haha. I feel your pain, really. You probably won't like this answer, but she needs alone (training and bonding) time with you and then put up when you are not DOING something with her. If she gets used to you just hanging out and doing nothing, she's going to have a hard time getting to work when its time. Or she'll bee looking for you to give her someething to do and then find other sources of entertainment if you don't fill that need (like the other dogs for play, things like that). I'm sure there are exceptions to the schutzhund dog 'rules', but if you are going to compeete with her then she needs to get into the mindset that every time you get her out to interact, you're going to do something FUN and exciting. Otherwise she'll assume you're not and blow you off and ignore you like she's doing. She will also learn that the world isn't going to drop on her head if Mommy is somewhere else (re: the whining/crying). Also the training time and whatnot needs to bee sufficient to wear her out, it doesn't take much with a 9 week old. She'll soon be perfectly content to come home and curl up in her crate and take a nap after a 'tough' morning of training :) You don't need to kennel your other dogs, to you need to kennel or crate HER when you're not directly interacting with her. And when do you get her out, it needs to be you and her, not you, her, and the other dogs. Probably not the popular answer and I'll get flamed for it, but there's my two cents for ya :)

p.s. I'm not suggesting she's put in a crate 23 hours a day, didn't mean for my post to sound like that. p.s.s. I really do know how to spell, my "e" key just sticks LOL :)

It sounds as though you have a pup with a lot of confidence and independence. This a good thing. She must be handled in a way that preserves her good traits and channels them correctly. I agree with the advice from trailrider and vomveiderheiss and also animules about not letting her pack with the others. Also I would add and many may disagree, when she throws a tantrum, put her in a quiet place (crate) and ignore her screaming until she settles down. Don't even speak to her or let her see you. Leave her there a while and then let her out when she's quiet and put it out of your mind. She must not get attention for that kind of behavior. Negative reinforcement is also attention and they will seek attention any way they can get it. It can become a vicious circle. I believe in ignoring it and cutting off your attention and presence until the trantrum subsides. Even though you will get good results from the advice here, be prepared that when she gets to the teenage phase 7-9 months, you will likely have another go at her trying to establish her independence and not listening, deliberately disobeying, being a brat and generally obnoxious. You can use the same distraction techniques and will need to be more firm then.

Blueskye I am surprised at you! She is a baby for god's sake give her a break. Have play time with her and make her think that you are the most fun thing in her universe and see how fast she comes around. When she bites, redirect her to something that is more fun to bite, like a squeek toy. Lot's of praise, treats and play at this stage will go a lot further than any kind of negative reinforcement.

Kristy, a workingline GSD puppy is not and is never going to be a Golden Retriever. It's a very big transition to go from many breeds to a workingline GSD especially from a breed so mind mannered as most Goldens. I was wondering if you knew what you were getting into LOL. You will get the best advice right here. Have patience and good luck.

Melissa, didn't we tell you so LOLOL?

Maligator!! You took the words right out of my mouth!!! If there's any flaming done, it will have to be to both of us.. this is the only way to raise a puppy..... Get Ruff Love by Susan Garrett, it will be the best $15 you ever spend... you can ignore the head halter part, I do, but the rest of it will never be better said ..... Everything good should come from you.. puppies learn every moment of their lives, set her up to learn the things you want her to.... We are the leaders, remember that!! Echomeadows, how long have you had her?? she also needs to be on an absolute housebreaking schedule so she definitely needs to be crated for that!! Enjoy this time.. get out your clicker and your treats and TEACH her to learn, forget about training... she will bond with the other dogs if you allow that!! I could go on and on... but I've said it all so many times before...

Krista don't you have an Iltis von der Wildsau pup? LOL we have one in our club that is now 4 months old and a bit of a demon but a controlled demon. Her owner is our helper. She has a very brief attention span but is doing well with some motivational obedience work and alot of rag work. At this point neither food nor a ball works to keep her attention long so he has to be constantly "up" with her and he does a ton of praising when she does anything right. Most of the time she's trying to get somewhere else:) Ditto on the crating when not working or playing with her. I have to watch it because my pups always want to hang with the adults and it creates problems down the road.

I know Blitzen, NOT a Golden, and frankly with some of my Goldens I have had more problems than I am having with this little one...(Is there really light at the end of the dark tunnel?) I don't mind, and actually encourage her on the pant leg, or sleeve, but the hands and toes are delicate things, and believe it or not, I'd love to keep those intact! :) To be 100% TRUTHFUL, I only want to do SchH with her because I plan on breeding her. I was told that for a bitch to be "worthy" she should at least have a SchH1 under her belt. This is not my way of thinking; I believe if a bitch gets her SchH1,2,or 3, she STILL may not be a good asset to the breed, and if a bitch doesn't get a SchH she may be a wonderful advancement to the breed; just no SchH title to prove it. (Wonder if I'll get bashed for this?) I have heared ALPHAPUP say this very thing more than once, and I kind of agree with him. Anyone care to confirm or deny this way of thinking? (PLEASE BE NICE ABOUT IT!)

I agree with the advice given so far, but would like to add one thing... even though she is so young... if you give her a command you MUST have a way of re-enforcing it. Otherwise don't give her a command or, she is going to think that ignoring you is ok. If she has that much drive then she must have food drive. Make yourself her only food source. Everytime she stares at you praise her, click her and give her a treat. Everytime she comes to you give her a treat and click her if you are using a clicker. THe good thing about a clicker is that you can reward ANY good behavor immediately. Most of all please remember that she is a baby!! She does not know what the world is all about and it is up to you to show her.... not the other dogs. At this time things should just be fun for her. You can make motivational training fun!! Treats are fun! BAlls are fun! RAgs are fun! She needs much exersize and attention. Run her little butt off!! lol Good luck!! Debby