Another Attempt to Take Over the AWDF - Page 3

"Mr Engel; You were there at the beginning. I wonder how you would have been so instrumental at the start only to watch this unravel. Please throw your hat back into the ring and right this ship. "

The commentator burns a lot of bridges and makes a lot of enemies, it
goes with the territory.

I served in various dog politics offices for about ten years, and have
always believed that while hard term limits are a bad thing, there
needs to change over from time to time. About 1996 I made the
decision to change roles.  Some details here:
http://www.angelplace.net/Angel/RetroNAWBA.htm

I am extremely unlikely to be nominated,
but if I were, I would run. President would perhaps
not be the best choice.

Over all I remain convinced that Mr Phillips or Mr Alloway would be the best
candidates.
 

So, the USCA represents 1/3 of the membership in the AWDF, contributes 1/3 of the budget, and has 1/3 of the vote.
Somehow, that seems reasonable....

The idea was brought up in this thread that the USCA isn,t a independent organization but a subordinate of Germany (which i do agree with)  but isn,t anyone who competes for a IPO title at least subordinate to the Europeans? With a organization named the American Working Dog Federation I,ve always wondered why with a American Organization why they don,t atleast show case there own Titles (AWD) there perfectly good titles and in my opinion atleast the 1 and 2 are better at evaluating the potential of the dog and isn,t that the main reason we trial? If being a independent organization is important (and it is) the member clubs and there individual members need to take as much pride and respect for there own titles as they do for a European title.

As far as the vote goes (in my opinion) if you want even representation slice the bills and costs evenly and there isn,t a issue.  


just my 2cents.

I really didn´t want to jump in this thread, but I love statistics, and I always wondered about the "real" amount of members in the different clubs.

Taking a look at the figures:

There are not 6281 but 5737 regular members of AWDF who are allowed to vote ( Hovawart, Herding Breed, Cane Corso guests only / no votes ).

USCA 3645 members = 63,53 % of total membership
Votes : 10 out of 24    = 41,67 % of votes

followed by 7 votes from Directors at Large = 3 Votes / Executive Board = 4 Votes

Boxer Club                is member of ATIBOX / following the rules of Boxer Club, Germany
Rottweiler Club         is member of IFR / following the rules of ADRK, Germany
Malinois Club            is member of FMBB, Belgium
Doberman Club        is member of IDC
DVG America           is part of DVG Germany
USCA                       is member of WUSV

Are all of them wrong?
 

@ Bob McKown ---->>>

@ Susie -------->>>

The AWDF has always been a front organization for the USCA and has always been controlled by the USCA.  Take a look at the rotating USCA board of directors and officers over the life of the organization.  The USCA set up the AWDF with bylaws that exclude the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA from AWDF membership as a way to get invited to the FCI schutzhund/IPO events as they are not a member of the FCI nor is the AWDF.  As usual for the USCA the AWDF rules are more about excluding the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA from the FCI invitational IPO event than any real competition and as we saw at the AWDF nationals in 2013 when they cheated Ivan Balabanov and Ebor out of his championship and spot on the 2013 AWDF/USA FCI team which laughably ended up costing the team the real IPO World championship (they finished second).  Nothing new to see here .. the same old cheating and lies from the USCA.  The only question for me is why the DVG wants to be part of the AWDF when they are so clearly the classiest DVG member and gain little from being a member???

Bubba: " The only question for me is why the DVG wants to be part of the AWDF when they are so clearly the classiest DVG member and gain little from being a member???"

Maybe because they know that a working dog association is a good idea for all parties involved, and maybe because they recognized, that all these tiny clubs, including DVG, are too small to survive on its own.

If a working dog association is a good idea then let all organizations with working dogs join and don't limit the work to biting sports such as IPO and Mondio Ring.  Work is a lot more than biting a jute sleeve or a bite suit .. that's just a nice code word to substitute for the "work" the AWDF represents but the AWDF does not even try or pretend to represent all working dogs or even all GSD working dogs  ... just the GSD that don't compete with the USCA.

"...but the AWDF does not even try or pretend to represent all working dogs or even all GSD working dogs  ."

Where are all your American working dogs? Whom do you miss?