Another Attempt to Take Over the AWDF - Page 4

Define work that dogs do and that will tell you who is missing from the AWDF .. IPO and Mondio Ring are a game .. not real work.   Herding is work, livestock guarding is work, hunting and retreiving is a lot closer to work than Mondio Ring or IPO.  The American Working Dog Federation is actually the American biting sports federation .. it's just that working dog sounds better than biting sports.  Search and Rescue, tracking, all kinds of nose work and not the phoney obedience tracking of IPO also count as work.  The AWDF is and has been a front for the USCA and has been controlled by the USCA since inception and only partially represents those breeds interested in biting sports.

again, the guy with the smallest brain has the largest mouth.  It will be nice when he moves on in life and decides to write on things he has actually attempted in some sort 

If we do not hang together we will certainly all hang seperately. UScA should be applauded for its work in starting and promoting the AWDF. It is a great idea but not finished. If bubba bird dog can fix it please step right up. If Mr Engel can take time from selling his book, please step up and fix it. Bubbabird dog The test is really not biting, it is how the animal handles stress. The worst dogs bite also, the best dogs handle the stress of being controled by an alpha handler and still do the work. Bubba, please disappear again. You contribute nothing

There is no FCI member representing the United States.  The FCI will never be represented in the United States unless the AKC joins the FCI and the AWDF will never be a FCI member.  The AWDF is a front organization that does nothing.  It has it's national championship and sends a team to the IPO championships held by the FCI.  It gives the Mondio Ring people a way to get access to the FCI Mondio Ring events which they would likely get invited to by the FCI anyway.  The AWDF is completely devoted to biting sports which have no useful purpose in terms of real "work" such as herding, livestock guarding, hunting or retreiving.  Herding, real tracking or Searh and Rescue are also not represented by the AWDF at any of it's competitions.  The AKC participates in the FCI dog sports events it wishes to ( agility, etc.) by invitation from the FCI.   The AWDF exists as a way to allow the USCA to control access to the IPO events held by the FCI while limiting access by any other IPO organization such as the GSDCA-WDA to only those holding dual membership in an AWDF organization such as the DVG.  The AWDF officers and leadership have been controlled by the USCA and with the possible exception of the AWMA, Mondio Ring, and DVG organizations the other breeds and organizations in the AWDF are just along for the ride.

To quote Motely Crue, "Girl, don't go away mad ....... Girl, just go away"

I think it's a sentiment shared by many.

Why look at the negative booboo? Thru the AWDF we can meet other trainers/judges who do not live in Germany. Thru the FCI we have    the ability to book more events than the UScA can accomendate. UScA thru Paul Meloy as president or CEO found away to get the smaller breed clubs involved as individual breed specific organizations . The by laws of UScA [ and GSDCA] state that the group organised for the betterment of the breed. This was a problem when the other breeds had no national organization to host Nationals, and other things for breed specific clubs. The more you rant about ''bite sports'' the more you show your inability to understand what is going to make the breed and organitaztion better. If you are certain it is all wrong and going to he--, stop paying attention to any of this. If the AWDF needs to be tweeked, there are ways for that to happen other than a UScA slight of hand move. You will never understand because you are intelligent enough to make noise but never right the ship.

Make the AWDF a real working dog organization or change the name .. it is a false name that does not represent what the organization is (a front for FCI IPO participation by the USCA but excluding all other GSD IPO organizations) and what it is named "working dog" when the AWDF is an organization devoted to biting sports which have nothing to do with the real work that many breeds actually do.  The AWDF is yet another example of the fakery and deception of the IPO world trying to pass off an IPO dog game as work and the dogs that participate as working dogs in order to decieve the public.  An AKC agility dog does as much "work" as an IPO dog and AKC tracking is superior to the obedience tracking that IPO passes off as "working" tracking.  In the AWDF version of reality the only "work" is biting a jute sleeve for IPO or a bite suit for the Mondio Ring but neither are actual work, just a game.  I guess Balabanov and Ebor were denied making all those wonderful new acquantices and meeting FCI judges at the IPO world championship 2013 when they were cheated out of their 1st place finish at the AWDF Championship 2013 by some seriously bad helper work (and that is being generous) but if you watch the same helper on some USCA dogs (Okane's) at the same event he was feeding the sleeve to the dog.  The AWDF is all smoke and mirrors .. nothing is what it is supposed to be.  The Mondio Ring and the DVG do their own thing and ignore the USCA while the rest of the AWDF member clubs either play by the USCA written and enforced rules or they don't play.

Bubba,

You have made this comment before:

".... the obedience tracking that IPO passes off as "working" tracking"

What do you mean by this comment?

Mike

The tracking used in IPO 1-3 is an obedience exercise more so than real tracking that has a useful purpose in the real world.  Good for finding your car keys but not much else and certainly not something escaping and moving away during the track.  The FH tracking is more like the real thing.  The real thing by the way is a dog tracking a new or old track following a person or animal fleeing for their life which means the dog must go fast and use all of their tracking skills to stay on the track and the scent while covering a lot of ground fast.  This kind of real tracking "work" does not involve scenting every footstep which in the case of IPO style tracking is what is required to score "points"  as that would blow the dog up and have the animal worn out in 1000 yards or much less and the target man or animal would be home and in bed before they found him going that slow.  The RCMP style tracking is what real tracking for a man looks like in open country .. dog and handler moving in a hurry, stating on track, and if the track is lost relocating and going fast after the target.  

bubba learnt all this from a leerburg  video no less.

i agree with you bubba, yr a prophet, yr breeding program must be awesome if it matches yr internet philosophies, yr training program must even better again - i think i missed it the first time, what kind of real work do you train and work dogs for??