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by RPG on 14 July 2014 - 02:07

Several months ago the AKC gave approval to the GSDCA to form a IPO working arm. This includes having German style conformation shows, having IPO working judges and award IPO titles (I have heard that two other AKC breed clubs were given approval also). Don't really know if this show, since it is under the GSDCA would need approval--I presume not since SV judges and as Blitzen said, no AKC points involved

leoetta

by leoetta on 14 July 2014 - 06:07

Well that's funny since the GSDCA already has an IPO working arm, it's called the GSDCA-WDA and I think they've had this approval from AKC for the past 30 years or so that the GSDCA-WDA has been in existence. Nothing has legally changed in that respect to my knowledge. Has someone else seen some announcement stating otherwise, and by announcement I mean one that is regarding an actual legal change? I haven't.


by RPG on 14 July 2014 - 14:07

The AKC has never given approval for schutzhund style working arms for any of their breed clubs, this is why USCA, USRC (Rotties), NABA (Bouvers) formed, none of them associated with their AKC breed clubs. WDA with their own Board of Directors and treasury was not considered by the AKC to be part of the GSDCA.

The WDA BoD passed a motion in both their Jan and April meetings to send a bylaw change to the membership ending the long standing agreement with the GSDCA. They also removed the GSDCA member on their Board for no cause at the Jan meeting. This lead to Regional Directors, a General Director, the business administrator, the head judge resigning their positions on the Board

The GSDCA then sent them a legal letter terminating the agreement (not relationship) between organizations. If anyone has a problem with this they should contact who ever is left on the WDA Board and ask why they were going to do this with no member input.

The WDA is suing the GSDCA for monetary damages, not to stay in association. If your are a GSDCA member the lawsuit can be seen behind the members wall on the GSDCA site---if you're a WDA member, who knows, I've heard the members have not seen the lawsuit.

Not with standing the WDA now claiming continued association, the GSDCA received AKC approval to form a IPO working arm and that's what we are doing. No show or trial we put on is meant to interfere with anything the WDA does, we wish them the best. The people coming to our shows or the forming GSDCA IPO clubs are making their own decisions on which organization to belong to (or both)


by bzcz on 14 July 2014 - 15:07

RPG

Your post is full of misinformation.

The AKC has approved working titles for IPO and is putting them on pedigrees.  This happened several years ago.  I believe the titles are MWD 1 ,2, 3 (Master Working Dog), 

Mike West's Club in Peori, IL held an AKC trial shortly after this happened,  THe caveat with AKC is that some other org had to host the working trial, not AKC,  I.E. GSDCA. Mike's club had WDA host the trial.  Malinois are also doing this and I believe the Rotts and Dobes can as well.  AKC approved it for breeds that it was part of their FCI standard (BOY that's gonna ruffle some feathers).  That's why it is not available to all breeds.

None of this is new. 

I have seen nothing about WDA ending their relationship with GSDCA.  Do you have any proof of this?  If it were true, then they wouldn't have won their injunction in CO.  and it would make no sense for the court battle that is going on currently.

 


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 14 July 2014 - 19:07

Your info is a little outdated. The AKC has dropped its own Working Dog Sport and has decided to recognize SchH/IPO titles earned under other organizations for certain breeds.The breed parent clubs were responsible for choosing which organization they would recognize titles from. The full list is here.


by Blitzen on 14 July 2014 - 20:07

And as a sidebar to the above, these are also titles that the GSDCA recognizes when computing their annual performance awards or merit and dual awards of merit. I've never seen any of these titles listed in an all breed catalog or OB trial catalog, that's left to the discretion of the show committee and all I know about opt to not list them. Too bad. Catalogs from independent GSD specialties will usually list them.


by bzcz on 14 July 2014 - 20:07

It's outdated only in that AKC is now listing them as IPO instead of the MWD.  All else is the same.

RPG stated that AKC never approved IPO style titles. That is incorrect.
Still waiting on the rest of the info to be verified.

 


Dog1

by Dog1 on 14 July 2014 - 21:07

bzcz,

You can verify the information you requested by reviewing the Jan and Apr. WDA board meeting minutes.


by bzcz on 14 July 2014 - 21:07

Dog1,

Already did for someone else looking at treasurer's reports.  Point out where it says that WDA is passing a bylaw to end their agreement with GSDCA.

The whole statement makes no sense.  You don't pass a bylaw to end a contract or agreement.  Not how it's done.  So please, point out the relevant sections for all to see.

Complete misinformation spread via the wonderful world wide web of confusion.

 


by Richard Medlen on 15 July 2014 - 00:07

Quite possibly the By-Law proposal, if there is, was or will be one or some will possibly be directed at several different Articles, Sections and Subsections starting with; Article I, Section 2., which reads "Structure. The GSDCA-WDA is  a corporation separate and apart from the German Shepherd Dog Club of America ("GSDCA") but shall be closely allied and associated with the aims, purposes and pursuits of the GSDCA......."

 

 

 






 


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