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by bzcz on 15 July 2014 - 03:07

Richard,

No offense but that is complete conjecture and even if it was true, it still wouldn't be the way to end a contract.


by SitasMom on 15 July 2014 - 06:07

keith.........please tell me all about that "paperwork error"working females class at USA SS 2014..........blatent payoffs going on and amazingly public too!


by Richard Medlen on 15 July 2014 - 12:07

bzcz:

I agree, my statement, if you read it, made it clearly suppositional. Rumors have been flying for months, if not several months,  that the upper echelons and leadership of the GSDCA-WDA  intended to remove the club from the GSDCA's dress-tail. To accomplish that end result, if in fact that is to be the desired result,  a goodly number of By-Law amendments starting with the Legal Name of the organization and continuing with  ARTICLE 1 and so forth would have to be passed by the GSDCA-WDA's membership.

Conversely, I don't believe there is any requirement contained in the GSDCA By-Laws insisting on any association between the GSDCA and the GSDCA-WDA.

As to the GSDCA-WDA  eliminating a contract, as some have stated, although I am not an attorney, you don't amend a constitution to eliminate a contract unless, of course, that contract has been a part of the constitution and bylaws.


by bzcz on 15 July 2014 - 12:07

Richard,

So we agree then that there is nothing there that supports RPG or Dog1's assertions.

Question is why do they keep saying things that aren't true?

 


by Blitzen on 15 July 2014 - 12:07

The GSDCA Constitution and By-Laws do not address the WDA or any other associations. It's a stand-alone dog club requiring no association with another in order to exist. As an AKC parent club, their by laws must meet with their approval and guidelines.

The GSDCA WDA was generated specifically as a joint effort to establish and manage a working progam between the 2 organizations - correct? Then the GSDCA WDA would be subject to its own Constitution and By Laws which should address how to disolve the club. Generally such a club would need to be disolved and a new one started. New officers, new constitution and by laws, etc unless there is a provision in their current by laws that states otherwise. Can one function without the other? What do the by laws say about that?

If there is an GSDCA standing rule regarding their association with the WDA, then a simple majority of the seated Board makes it null and void and they need to do nothing else as far as their AKC obligation . No membership vote or AKC approval is needed. Standing rules are used by officers and directors of AKC dog clubs as a way to manage the affairs of the club and are binding unless they violate a term of the constitution or by laws.


by bzcz on 15 July 2014 - 12:07

Bingo! Nobody's does.

So why the constant misinformation?


by Blitzen on 15 July 2014 - 13:07

Speculation............


by bzcz on 15 July 2014 - 13:07

I'd agree with you but it's not presented that way.  It's constantly presented as fact with half fast references that sometimes aren't even relevant.

Richard clearly presented his as speculation. 

RPG and Dog1 did not.  They presented theirs as facts.


by Blitzen on 15 July 2014 - 13:07

How many here belong to the GSDCA?


by gck on 15 July 2014 - 13:07

The WDA Bylaws, on the other hand, specify that the President of the GSDCA is an ex-officio member of the WDA Board of Directors, that certain officers are required to maintain GSDCA membership, and a process for selecting two General Board Members nominated by the GSDCA President.  

The recent WDA Board upheavals summarily removed one of the GSDCA nominated General Directors (maybe the GSDCA President as well--just not 100% sure of the facts).  Presumably, Colorado non-profit statutes were invoked as license to do so.  A question for legal minds:  Can a state statute be invoked to override an organization's bylaws? 

I wish the GSDCA well with the October Sieger Show.  Whispers hint that they are pursuing first tier SV Judges.  The venue is terrific.  If my training/trialing/showing agenda were not already planned and priorities set, I would have gladly presented dogs in this new event.

During the recent USCA Sieger show at the same location, all breed agility trials were taking place inside.  It was fun for me to watch the dogs' obvious talents--yet so different from my GSD world.  The GSDCA Nationals play host to a wide variety of GSD "Sports".  It can be a wonderful opportunity to appreciate the hard work and differing interests of our dogs and their trainers.  (Chuckling here to myself---the dress code customs should be a ton of fun to watch!)






 


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