cross gaiting gsd - Page 5

and if the cops are after you in china, don't try escape by running thru burning hoops, their dogs are trained for that.

and which I said that the overangulation going on in the breed robs the power from the hindquarter, which you disagreed with.

ANd as I stated earlier, the pace comes as a byproduct of the conformation lines emphasis on trotting.  and as I also stated earlier, it is not a natural gait.  As blitzen showed on her post, it's the result of a mutation.  The more trot you breed for, the more pace you get as well. which is why the judges ignore it.  They already know this. 

i must say pacing is the more powerful gate both mechanically and in appearance, a dog pacing proper looks like he is looking for sh!t to start.

 

i like the dog that breaks over at the knees in a trot as well, like a shuffle, looks awesome.

 

you people gotta get paast this idea that there is a correct GSD - you waste so much energy

 

the correct GSD is whatever the buyer wants, and you all know it.

I know that your wrong. THeir is a breed standard for a reason.   The pace is a faster gate but not more powerful 

sure there is a breed standard for the GSD, in fact there are several, which one did you have in mind, seems the only "reason" for them is they give breeders and judges something to ignore.

 

what other deep wisdoms you got?

from my reading on dogs' gait, I remember the observation in Horse racing that trotters sometimes become pacers as  they age. pacers are slightly faster than trotters. Many dogs who are gaiting for a long time will go to a pace and it is thought that it is a way to recover while in motion. it is observed when dogs are tired or perhaps not in great condition. some dogs just use the pace as a gait over the trot. Any horse people input? 

I'm stuck on this 28" dog thing. Vk4, where are you measuring from? Are you using a stick or eyeballing it? Use a stick, put a mark on a wall or board, and measure. I have a really, really, hard time believing your dog is 28" based on my experience with the biggest GSD (well bred...we're not talking about American pet lines...) I've seen being my own old male, at just a hair under 27" and he appeared larger than your dog in vids (of course I could be wrong) and weighed about 100lbs. The dog you're describing in measurements and weight is not a GSD by standards....way outside, in fact. I tend to think you're not measuring the same way they measure for koer. Maybe the pedigree does have some monsters in there but I dunno...that seems crazy big for the dog in the vid. 

I have never seen a trotter allowed to become a pacer intentionally.  When they race they have hobbles on them that keep them in the correct gait.  They can still break gait with the hobbles on, they are more of a reminder than a physical stop.  A trotter who breaks gate regularly isn't a racer for very long.  Same with the pacers.  The bloodlines are  pretty close between the two and they are divided based on their natural inclination to trot or pace. 

GSD's do pace for the reasons that you give.  The working lines tend not to pace as much or as often.  The reason that some dogs pace and then go into a trot at faster speeds is a coordination issue.  It isn't a natural pace so unless it is worked and trained, it disappears under physical stress, which is why the really good handlers can eliminate it in the ring just by manipulating the leash. 

i tend to see a lot of dingoes pace, not sure the significance there.

 

jen, do you have a pic of the precise point the height is measured, i think the problem was measuring on clumpy grass cos i got 3 different measurements. not good work on my part, i will assume error.

will do the board thing.

 

here is the grand sire, heard he threw some big progeny;

 

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