DOGS4WARRIORS SCAM - Page 7

But yes she would message me back when I asked how axl and Dixie were doing. She would say there doing great. Dixie doesn't like chickens and so on and so on. When I'd ask for pictures she'd say her camera was broken. A week before I found out Dixie was sold I asked again for pictures. She said she'd get them for me. Pictures never came then I saw dixie was sold. The department was lied to and even given a contract on her. She didn't provide any health records. Nothing was given and of course thats because it would show the dog was in the United states and not the Czech Republic. She has threatened to sue me for defamation. That's ok. Come to Texas and sue me. She will lose. I have emails from her saying she would return dixie if she couldn't be a service dog and I have multiple witnesses hear her in my driveway when axl was picked up if he couldn't be a service dog she would return him. I don't want the money. All I want is for her to return the money she got for Dixie back to the Barnesville pd. The dog wasn't sold under dogs4warriors. She sold her under her kennel ohio valley k9. That's not how a charity works. You can't take something and sell under your business for profit. If the money was for Dogs4warriors then why not sell the dog under dogs4warriors? Like I said call Chief Norris at the Barnesville pd and ask him what she told them about dixie and where she said she came from. Honesty is key here and I gave her the opportunity to come clean. She didn't comply so I went public.

All messages between us and have been saved. Even have her messages saying dixie was sold and trained at Ohio Valley k9. Her local pd is suing her now because the dog they purchased wasn't certified like the contract she provided stated. She's brought this mess on herself. I don't like liars and theirs. I work for my money and can't stand people who use others for their profit. All she had to do was tell me dixie wasn't working as a service dog. She didnt. She handed that dog over the day she arrived to the pd. She had other intentions and used me to get that dog and make some money.she had tried since January to get her and when I decided in may to send her to be a service dog she handed her right over for money.

If I was after money I would take all my evidence to ohio and sue her. This isn't about getting money. It's about warning others what they are really doing.
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Thank you for going public Donald Harris. I'm sure you saved a lot of innocent people from being scammed.

Donald, I don't do FB so can't read all you have there but from what you have posted here, the lady has committed severel felonies and I suggest you contact your local police, her local police and the Ohio Attorney general or states attorney. This is one of those instances where it is BOTH a civil matter AND a criminal one.

It is called theft by deception. Here's some starting points.

http://law.justia.com/codes/arizona/2005/title13/01802.html

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2913

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2913.02

I'm surprised the police chief did not mention this to you and urge you to file a criminal complaint - oh silly me - he most likely does not want to admit to his constituents that that the dept was human enough to get royally scammed and the frosting on the cake is they accepted stolen goods as part of the deal.  Ah yes - I can just see the headline. BUT she also committed the same crime against them and they should be filing charges - the deception was where the dog came from, the level of training and the shipping charges - for you it was the loss of a dog ( and in reality most likely two) and the value of the dog since she accepted the donation for another purpose and with the string attached that the dogs be returned if not acceptable for that purpose. Her actions speak to the fact that she had no intent to even evaluate them for the donated purpose. An exchange of emails can be considered a written contract and or evidence of the terms or a contract. I personally think the bigger newspaper headline is police chief fails to charge thief who stole from the city(county, town whatever) and why is that?

If you really want to keep her from doing this to someone else make out a criminal complaint. Her business days with police departments will be over in a flash. If first and foremost you want the other dog back you might want to try using the threat of prosecution but that may put the dog at risk if she is the vindictive type wh/ she may be given the threats to sue you. BTW truth is an absolute defense against libel and slander. Also in some jurisdictions this might also be chargeble as fraud and sometimes there are special statutes for those who engage in malfeasance as part of a governmental contract. You might want to check those out or ask ques in that directions to th AGs and police chief

Good Luck and thank you for posting the information here so others will know in the future. Sad to say the comment re all the scam/scumbags in the service dog world is so true and very frustrating to the industry.

 

BBBB I feel very sorry for your dogs. You have abrogated all responsibility for them. A good breeder would not do so.

I get it that you supposedly had some personal emergency that required you to place these dogs quickly but you now know there are very serious questions about the ethics and business practices of the person you gave the dogs to. The line about not hearing anything bad about the welfare of the dogs (ignoring Donald's comment re  thin unkempt dog) just comes across as someone with their hands over their ears and their eyes shut tight because they know there is cause for concern  but don't want to deal with the issue.

Are your dogs microchipped? You need to check who the new owners of in case that info has been updated. If Sheila can not give you absolute proof about the who what and where your dogs are  then you need to publicize the #s to try to find them AND MAKE SURE THEY Are ok.  And for Pete's sake DO NOT RELY  on her FB statements that everything is just peachy keen in OZ. Look how long and WELL she lied to Donald. What makes you think she's not lying to you? You keep talking about a leopard not changing spots. Hello she has been caught red handed - that's the true color of her spots everything else was camoflaged.

So please be a good breeder and go out and truly find out what happened to your poor dogs. It is NOT enough to say I'm fine with whatever she does. Just my 2 cents worth but I gotta tell you, you're not looking so good right now as a caring responsible breeder.

Harrison and Barnesville PD in Ohio say it's a civil matter and I need to sue her. They keep saying its not criminal. Barnesville doesn't care. They said we paid for a dog that bites and finds drugs and we got a dog that bites and finds drugs. Her local PD according to the Sheriff is suing her for the time they had to spend in having the dog they purchased certified as the contract said it was but in fact it was not. This district attorney has been notified and I received a letter in the mail saying it's under investigation. I filed the complaint under the charitable organizations fraud link that's on their website. Dogs4warriors has no breeding program. They take donated dogs and the rescues from the shelters are the ones becoming these so called service dogs. I know where one of my donated dogs went and that was to Barnesville pd. I don't know about the second dog i sent Axl. She said she'd return him but she hasnt.

I personally feel that Barnesville pd isn't pursuing this matter because they will look like fools. The Chief put that dog on the streets with no health records including shots. She did have them but how did they really know this as they wernt given any paperwork. She didn't release it until I contacted them and went public with this matter. I also feel that the chief of police could get in serious trouble for not doing his research on the dog and just taking her word. Then spending 9500 bucks on this dog. I contacted their local news station who ran the story and was told they were waiting for the PD to do their investigation before they ran a story. I contacted them back later and they never responded. I'd be willing to bet they were told by the police to not male this public. Maybe I should contact a large news station and show all emails text pictures and so on. Bet that would get some people doing their jobs. Maybe I'll male a video with slides on this and post on youtube. I bet that would get some serious attention to.

TIG  ... stop pretending you know anything about the law as relates to animal sales or donations. The dispute between Donald Harris and Dogs4Warriors is a civil matter unless the dogs have been abused or mistreated.   Also TIG if you have any evidence that Dogs4Warriors has mistreated any of their dogs then lets see the evidence or stop your whining and finger pointing.  There are some folks who don't like Donald Harris and how he does business but that is not pertinent to this thread any more than your BS about felonies and how the dogs I donated might not be cared for as you would like...... if you actually had any knowledge about their care other than third or fourth hand BS.  Dogs unfortunately are treated just like cows, ducks, and donkeys.  If you sell or donate an animal it is going to fall under contract law and that is civil in nature.  The police are not getting involved in contract law.  I have not a single shred of evidence that Sheila and Dogs4Warriors has done anything bad to or with my donated dogs which I previously listed by AKC names for all to see.  I didn't hear a word back from anyone as to those specific dogs being mistreated, sold or bartered nor have I heard a single word from anyone claiming Dogs4Warriors has mistreated or abused any dogs in their care.  The dogs on the photo pages for Dogs4Warriors appear well cared for.  So this entire tempest in a teapot thread seems to be between Donald Harris and Dogs4Warriors about his two donated dogs.  Not even one person other than Mr. Harris who has donated or received a dog from Dogs4Warriors has made a complaint in this forum.   TIG your insult about my being a bad breeder is based on what??  I have been down in the trenches with my dogs and I have seen and experienced a lot with my dogs as a breeder, trainer, and owner but the one thing that has always scared me most for the well being of my dogs is people like you who just know enough to be dangerous. 

Just for the record, I am a breeder and donated a dog to Dogs 4 Warriors Sept 2014 for which I am unable to verify the disposition of that dog.  I have been in contact with them, but I haven't been getting any concrete information or requested documentation, despite assurances to the contrary.

Mr. Harris is not the only person who has unanswered questions and an issue.  I have not filed a complaint in this forum, having discovered it only recently.   I am investigating the situation currently and, therefore, will pursue the situation according to those channels.   While I have heard good things about D4W, the lack of communication I have experienced has seriously invited doubt as to what really happened with my dog, although Ms. Slezak has advised me that she will be placed with a veteran in March.  I have no way to verify, and have not received the letter of in-kind donation I have repeatedly asked for and was promised several times and have not received.  

Unfortunately, regardless of the outcome, my kennel will never again donate a dog to an organization (non-profit or otherwise) that is not currently located in the same jurisdiction as my business.  As a breeder, I need to know where all my puppies and dogs are and how they are doing so I can sleep at night.  This situation has caused me a tremendous amount of uncertainty and lack of sleep.  The fact of the matter is it creates doubt in all future situations where I might otherwise consider donating a dog for LE, SAR, therapy or otherwise because this situation has no closure for me and I cannot go through this ever again.  it is hard enough trying to find qualified, caring responsible buyers, let alone casting doubt on non-profits and charitable agencies who have valid needs for dogs, and who can be accountable for those dogs received.