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by joanro on 29 November 2014 - 16:11

I just watched the vid. The last pic posted seems to match a couple frames of a dog in the vid...notch in tip of right ear, white patch on chest. The first pic posted does not match. The skinny dog ? Who knows, it looks like any promo for money on rescue ads.

Stolen Pets

by Stolen Pets on 29 November 2014 - 17:11

@GDStudent: Please read the story well. We have been looking for Amy's whereabouts for about 12 months in the Netherlands. Until the owner got the phonecall from Houston. Best of luck with your own financial oilissues, this here is only to get Amy home safe and sound. And if there is any surplus money it will ALL be spend on Amy's welfare. Max. is €1800.  But don't expect a platinum cage with diamonds. Just what an emaciated and mistreated traded dog needs to get home and get well again and regain trust in humans...

@JoanRo Please read the donation page, there are pictures of her and a blog that you probably will understand with Google Translate. No need to donate if you don't want to, just for your information: http://www.geef.nl/actie/repatriering-herder-amy/#.VHoEQNKG_Tr

 


by joanro on 29 November 2014 - 18:11

How did "Amy" get to the USA?

by joanro on 29 November 2014 - 18:11

An emaciated dog won't be allowed on the plane. Is there an explanation as to how "Amy" got to the USA?

by hexe on 29 November 2014 - 19:11

joanro, the first photo is described as having been taken while she was still with her original owners in Holland; since dogs aren't typically born with a notch in their ear, is it so unreasonable to you that there would be pictures of the dog that were taken BEFORE whatever caused the notch in the eair had occured? 

I really can't understand why this is such a big freakin' deal to a handful of you--if you aren't comfortable with the information as provided, then it's simple: you don't have to part with a penny of your money, and no one would think any less of you. But for crying out loud, you've made your positions quite clear--you don't feel enough specific info has been provided to validate the request for help; do you really need to keep making accusations that you haven't provided a single shred of evidence to support?

Bring us something concrete that would indicate that this is not a legitimate organization, or that this dog's situation is not as it's been described, and that will be well worth considering. Otherwise, why don't you just ignore this thread from this point forward, since you're convinced it's nothing but a scam?


by hexe on 29 November 2014 - 19:11

Oh, and on the 'how did Amy get to the US?' point-- I doubt that will ever be known, since the breeder wasn't supposed to be relocating the dog in the first place; it's unlikely the breeder or the breeder's nephew are going to provide any information as to who the dog was sold to after she landed with a dog trader in Hollandscheveld, and the US agencies that oversee the importation of dogs into this country are only concerned with whether or not the dog has been properly vaccinated against rabies. This dog is chipped, and when the dog was found and the chip was scanned, it led the person who found here in Houston to her original owners in Holland. Beyond that, it's doubtful anyone will ever learn what happened between the time she went back to the breeder's kennel and when she was picked up on the roadside in Houston.

 

 

 

 

edited to change word 'here' to 'her'.

 

 

 


susie

by susie on 29 November 2014 - 19:11

Hexe, I don´t question Stolen Pets honesty, I don´t even question the identity of this poor dog, but

I do have problems legally - I really wonder if this dog still is the "owner´s property". In case the dog is still theirs, why didn´t they get back their own dog from the "nephew"? I´d call the police in a second...
Are the "original owners" now ready to take care of her for the rest of her life, or are they dreaming a romantic dream?

This poor dog deserves the best home available for her, no doubt about that.

Fingers crossed
Susie


by joanro on 29 November 2014 - 19:11

Hexe, the notch in the ear is there in the video....when was the video made by the owner? The original pic is not the same dog as the supposed recent picture. Too sketchy to believe the story.

by hexe on 29 November 2014 - 19:11

susie, understood; I wasn't referring to you.  The legal ramifications are less likely to be a problem, IMO, here in the US simply because the condition of the dog when she was found were such that she was either missing for a significant length of time, and there were no reports of anyone looking for her, or she was abandoned intentionally in that poor condition, in which case anyone claiming her here would be risking being charged with neglect and abandonment. As for the legal situation in the Netherlands, since that is Stolen Pets' area of operation, I'm sure they've already investigated the legal standing in that country and found no obstacles to prevent the dog from being returned to the original owners--after all, it's not being done in secret, it's become quite public internationally now that the dog has been discovered here in the US.

joanro, since I don't know when the dog's ear became notched, I have no idea, no do I have the dates the first photo was made, the date when the ear became notched, or the date of the video. Why not contact the original owner directly?


Stolen Pets

by Stolen Pets on 29 November 2014 - 20:11

The owners did find out that Amy was in Hollandscheveld and went there to take her back. But that did not work out well, they were threatened and had to return emptyhanded or end up in jail for attacking the trader. That too was not in Amy's interest.

If you read well in the blog on the donation-page most of the movie was made from a Skype-contact there was between the owner and the finder. That is why we apologized for the bad quality.

This is the most recent photo of Amy we received:

 

And this is Amy while still at home in he Netherlands:

There is no proof of what caused the notch in her ear, the scar on her nose or the bump on her head. Maybe it was the trader, maybe she was punished for not obeying her new boss, maybe she had to fight to get some food while walking around abandoned along the highway.

Dutch TV might be interested in making a documentary about what happened to Amy and her miraculous return. As soon as it is online we will try to undertitle it and send it to you. Maybe it can convince you that this action is completely legal in contrary to what some dogtraders are doing: selling stolen dogs to the USA and leaving their owners behind broken (even little children). They don't give a damn about the emotional connection between dogs and their owners, they only care about money. 

So, as Hexe already said: if you still don't trust our intentions for whatever reason just leave this thread.

 

 






 


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