What would you do? - Page 6

Some people buy dogs purely for pets, you know. Point being, different people have different temperamental requirements. 

I look at every dog as "Shall your genes be passed on?" Lots and lots of people just ask "Will you be my buddy?" 

boomer11, just to be clear, what I disagreed with in your earlier post was your assertion that melba 'freaked out too soon'.  From where I stand, she didn't 'freak out', and it sounded pretty clear that there was not likely much to be gained by having the pup stay longer when said pup hadn't even granted melba the designation of 'she who brings the food' by that point. I believe such things are very personal in nature, and no one can really say what is too soon for any given combination of person and dog.

Can I just say Thanks, to Melba and to the rest of you, for initiating this

discussion ?  It has been a fascinating topic;  for somebody like me who

isn't a breeder (or buyer) and has always just had to deal with dogs and puppies

already present, owned by other people, or Rescues of one sort or

another, its been an interesting, and possibly future-useful, thred.

Running out of a crate and biting the first person it seen Could be seen as a nervous dog too

I agree with Hexe. I think a certain amount of suspicion and reserve is not only a good thing, but is supposed to be part of our breed's makeup.

I'm fine with a pup being frightened or suspicious of something new at first. If the fear persists, thats when I begin to worry. For instance, when I was bringing Star home from her breeder in Ohio, she freaked out at some noisy children who were running in the parking lot at a rest stop. I made a point of taking her to a local playground to introduce her to kids, and have them give her treats. The fear was gone very quickly.

Another dog I adopted at the age of 8 weeks was still terrified of kids, men and anything else that was new or strange at the age of 2 years, despite tons of socialization. I rehomed her. :(  The timidity didn't manifest itself until she was about 9 months.

 

Yogi, well, that's true, but it obviously wasn't the case with the dog boomer was talking about!

Why would you want a new pup to run  from its kennel and bite you? I bought one dog years ago that did that, had him shipped in from Utah. He went back on the next available flight. Why is that considered  desirable behavior for a workingline GSD pup? Sounds to me like a liability suit in the making.

I haven't met Melba, only know her via her posts to this board which have always been intellligent and well writtten. I doubt it was easy for her to return this pup, but she did the right thing for her.

yogidog,.. nah, he was just fine..little pissed at the world but fine. He is a jerk. But he is my jerk and we get along just fine. He was a lot of fun to work and trial and just teach cool new things..

My sister picked my dog.. she told me this: he looked intelligent, he was the only one who stared me down and would not come to say hi..LOL The crazy thing is my sister has somehow picked the best dogs for my whole family and friends.. And we know how to raise them being all very close to z PS dogs since we were toddlers. They purchased my male as a present, I had no idea till a week before his arrival. He was dragged in a metropolitan city in traffic, subways and escalators by a teenage niece to socialize him.

Blitzen.. why would I like my dog to bite me out of a crate? I personally would not he bit my friend.. and I knew he was an ass from the very first moment I saw him. And I would not want him any other way. He was pissed, so he bit my friend. you would return him, I kept him put an IPO3 on him FH2 (couple of times) and he is sleeping at my feet. He hangs out now with my cat, chickens and it super tolerant with babies.. he has bitten peole trying to break to my house and has let puppies take his toys. Nothing wrong with him..

This tread just shows how people like to pass judgment, or assume based on what? Written description of an 8 week old puppy after a 20 hour cooped up flight? I am a royal pissed off nerve wrack after my 20 hour flights over seas.. Show me the bed and leave me alone.

We all have different expectations and Ideas about our dogs.... and that is perfectly fine. I suppose this thread showed us that. nNo point to argue about it. 

Martina

 

 

What would I do? I would immediately have the pup's hearing tested! Have you done that yet?  I ask because a hearing impaired or deaf dog would behave exactly as you describe as it has no ability to understand your verbal affection, commands, etc. It would relate more to dogs because of the instinctual and comforting sights and smells that dogs offer each other. The lack of such smells and sights would also help it to become more standoffish and a bit of a loner with humans. At least until it was diagnosed and raised accordingly. Might want to have that looked into! Otherwise, you may just have a slow starter or a pup who took the trauma of being taken from its birth pack, a lot harder than most. It CAN happen! True, high drive pups usually show their confidence and high drive nature's almost at birth but I've also seen slow starter pups become wonderful and confident service dogs and one even work on the canine unit as a cadaver search dog. Don't give up just yet and please have those ears checked too! Best of  luck and I hope that pup does really well too! 

Yes, I returned him, Martina. And yes, again, we all  have different reasons for wanting a dog. The dog I returned was put down at 2 years when he put his experienced breeder/trainer/owner and her 4 year old kid in the hospital for reconstructive surgery.. I think I made the right decision for me and that dog.

Ekana, what dog are you talking about? Who are you addressing?