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by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 00:03

Define work. Usually work implies a vocation that pays money as in livelihood. In which case even my aussies and fox terriers and husky crosses were all working dogs. So if you want to do it that way, sport dogs pay to participate, so are not working in a vocation, they are doing avocation or hobby.
As far as breeders, guess you'd have to take that on an individual basis.

by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 01:03

That's your definition, I never agreed to it, in fact I disagree with it because it is stupid. My radio is working but it is not getting paid and nobody dies if it doesn't. My fat neighbours therapy dog rarely leaves the couch but it is subsidised by the gov to do therapy work, more than pays for its keep. If the fat neighbour leaves the house in his car and takes the dog that is subsidised to, the dog as far as I can tell does nothing for a living.

U saying all the legend dogs fero, mink, various bsp winners are not working dogs cos it is not life and death and they don't get paid?

A show chi stud is a working dog cos it gets a stud fee, what that work...gigolo??.

Yr definition sux, and I feel like an argument :-) :-).

by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 01:03

Your argument is childish so it sux more.:-) :-)

by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 01:03

A fat dog laying on the couch with its fat lazy owner who is collecting a handout from a social program is a freeloader and parasite....not work. :-) :-) :-)

A dog doing sport and not being paid to participate is doing sport...doesn't matter how far out his tongue hangs ....not work in the sense of being paid earning the owner's living. The owner collecting a stud fee for pimping his dog is, well, a pimp. Not work, cause the dog is doing it without having to be trained to do a bitch...you know, like when you scarf down a bratwurst, it just cums to you naturally you didn't need special training and that's not your livelihood (probably) ;-)

by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 01:03

True scarfing down bratwurst and being pimped out by my owner is not my job but I wish it was, where do I apply?

by joanro on 14 March 2015 - 02:03

Lolol ^^^ apply at your local social services office, lol:-)

by ZweiGSD on 14 March 2015 - 03:03

I was trying to gain a little insight into why some forum members look down on GSD's that are pets/in pet homes.  In my opinion a large percentage of them are "just" pets and there is nothing wrong with that.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 March 2015 - 10:03

Not all 'therapy dogs' are "spuriously claimed" , vk.

I've come to realise it isn't so true of America, there seem to be a lot of

definitions of 'therapy' and 'service' dogs, including some that have no

formal training or regulations/ID about them, and that makes it easier

for some people to claim ordinary pet dogs as essential in order to get

them into places and onto planes etc where they would not normally be

allowed,  but in the UK almost all 'dogs with jobs' wear visual ID, jackets

overprinted leashes etc and are regulated and trained.  Even Pat Dogs

which are pets that visit old peoples' Homes, hospital wards etc are

usually certified first (mainly using our KC Good Citizen Scheme).   I think

giving 5 minutes cuddles 'n' comfort to the sick or elderly who no longer can

have their own pets is probably more akin to competing in (non-bite) sports,

rather than "life or death" work.  Not all would agree with me there.

 


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 March 2015 - 10:03

To the OP - are you sure that posters are looking down on the pet GSDs ?

Or could it be looking down on their owners ?

 

I admit I am guilty of contempt against some owners, particularly of the GSD

and other 'working breeds', who do not consider it necessary to give their dog

anything to do except lie around on the sofa.


by vk4gsd on 14 March 2015 - 10:03

last time i looked therapy dogs were beyond the price range of about everyone.

people applied to get on long waiting lists, years long,  after referals from actual doctors. the trained dogs were purchased by charities and donated.

they were the highest trained dogs you could get equal to or greater than dogs for the blind. the people that trained them were the most proffesional, serious and accomplished trainers. i blinked and now every other slob has one and every other slob trains and sells them.

 

if i could only lose my morals i could make big money in the dog industry.






 


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