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yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 21 March 2008 - 07:03

Half of the United states, today , is in the hands of foreign conglomerates.and if your check a little further.,,,,they also own all the farms in the West and are bying the big tracts of land all over the United states almost overnight and in a year , will own all the banks....

Most of our colleges are controlled thru student unions and invaded by Saudi and Iranian student...which have snuck in controll of the ins and outs....just a litte note of interest.....not that anyone will agree....but its the truth....along with a lot of other  Fascist and socialistic amazing events of the last year and on the horizen......better vote for some one you know loves our country and will try to limit congress to stopping invasion thru out borders of those that take us over from within....Obama and Hillarybilly have ties and lots of them to foreign uncouth savery underground not so ethical big oil and money men and the mind set of I rule you follow....I rule and You have no choice.. I rule and me and mine will own you and yours.


Sherman-RanchGSD

by Sherman-RanchGSD on 21 March 2008 - 08:03

++Kennel reductions and those going out of business seem to be on the increase as of late.

Is the "sellers" market waning?+++
 

Since I do not breed dogs professionally and have always kept it on  a level of love for my breed and ongoing learning experience, I wouldnt know about the sellers waning thing. Perhaps the professionals can comment.

I know many people in many professions are suffering with the hard hit economy... I suppose it could be affecting dog mills and brokers. ..not sure how or if it affects others.

Debi

 


by Speaknow on 21 March 2008 - 09:03

Luxury items or non-necessities are the first to suffer in any economic downturn, including pets and related activities. The US is very much a consumer society – shop more and all will be well! Watch monthly Consumer Confidence index figures; any sharp downturn now in consumer spending omens hard economic times ahead. I think Bush blameworthy for much, including eroding personal freedoms, but not for flagging economy (assuming he actually understands it!): beyond his ambit, whereas bigger forces than debt crises are at work. Still, seeds for current credit crunch were sown well back under Greenspan’s purview: first the equity bubble, then the housing one (with greed, private and corporate, doing its bit). Living beyond one’s means never was recipe for success! Coming decades will be shaped by religion and globalization. Whether the individual will suffer (mainly from export of jobs to lower-wage countries) in order to only benefit the multi-national corporations is anyone’s guess. Access to growing markets together with economies of scale is the number one game. China is set to overtake US economy size-wise and sooner than later will dwarf all else. India’s population has most likely already overtaken China’s and eagerly catching up economically. It must be my puritan streak but I’ve always envied the simpler Amish life-style. Satisfying outdoor work, good food and housing, all in a stable family setting – what more could a person want?

sueincc

by sueincc on 21 March 2008 - 10:03

I didn't go out and purchase a an over-priced home or take out a mortgage with crazy terms either.  I am paying skyrocketing prices   for essentials such as food, gas and other utilities, and I do believe the current administration and it's war are responsible.  I am another who can't wait to wave "bye bye Bushie"


by Blitzen on 21 March 2008 - 14:03

Think about what could be done in the US with the money that has been spent on a civil war that is none of our business. I won't even mention the loss of life suffered there. The blame for this crime against humanity is the fault of none other than our current President. Dubya, the family man who fears god has brought this country to its knees. Could any of the current presidential candidates do worse even if they tried? Not likely. I truly hope the citizens of the US have learned their lesson - do not vote for anyone based only on their perceived moral character. I think satan himself could get elected in the US by convincing the voting citizens that he loves his wife and kids, would never cheat, opposes stem cell research and abortions. Never mind he's in bed with the the oil companies and can't spell cat.


DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 21 March 2008 - 14:03

Let's not blame the oil companies.  If you elect laws that restrict dog breeding and then the prices skyrocket how many of you would refuse to sell your dogs for the higher profit?

You might blame your own leaders in the house and senate!


Ceph

by Ceph on 21 March 2008 - 14:03

Blitz - those arent the reasons I voted for him, and I dont know that it is right to make such a broad sweeping generalization about those who did vote for him.

~Cate


by Blitzen on 21 March 2008 - 15:03

Desert Ranger, we will know how much the oil companies have profited when their first quarter earnings are published.

Ceph, don't take my opinion personally, the people I know who vote for Dubya say they picked him for the reasons I've listed and a few simply voted against Kerry. I don't know why you voted for Bush, didn't know you did until now. I would suspect, like most, you felt you were doing the right thing at the time, maybe still do. Most I know who did vote for him are now regretting it.

I seldom get involved in a policital discussion for this very reason - some take offense and think it is about them and feel they are being blamed for the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in today, 5 years later. Only one person to blame for that....................


DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 21 March 2008 - 16:03

I hope the oil companies make a huge profit! Otherwise they would be idiots much like the people who ban drilling in the States then want to cry because we are dependent upon foreign oil.

Bottom line our republication and democratic parties both have refused to allow many areas to be drilled plus we have not build a new refrinery in the USA for over 30 years.

With countries like China, India and the former Soviet Bloc countries becoming industrial they oil supply will continue to be in demand and prices will continue to grow. One of our majors just announced their production for 2007 has fallen despite all their drilling efforts. This is a major issue for all oil companies as the bulk of our wells daily production of oil and natural gas continue to fall and unless our domestic drilling is increased our overall oil imports will increase and the final product of gasoline will increase. Plus you take states like california with all their specific requirements to mfg. the gasoline their prices will be even higher.

This is not caused by oil companies or even the President, it is caused by members and leaders of both parties! They love it when we all fight and blame the President or OPEC or whoever.

 


by Trafalgar on 21 March 2008 - 16:03

To my mind a "correction" in puppy pricing is a good thing.

The dog price "bubble burst" is simply a reaction to an overheated market where hype outstripped actual value.

The vast majority of people buying GSD puppies ARE NOT going to trial, title, breed or show in conformation and their purchase of a dog suitable for those endeavors will become less important in a an  environment where disposable income is restricted.

Why pay $ 1500.00  bucks for a pup when PLENTY of healthy happy $ 800.00 puppies abound?

Of course, to those entering the competitive world of the dog-obsessed the extra money isn't as important as getting the puppy that has parents who've DEMONSTRATED the ability to compete & win in the very venue the purchaser hopes to pursue with the pup.

For  my money a reasonably priced Mal x Dutchie  mix pup with off the chart parents is a FAR FAR superior bet on many levels - not the least of which is the fact that the owners certainly didn't breed with profit as a motive....

So now the prices will stagnate and fall. C'est La Vie. If breeders can't afford to breed with depressed prices they can enjoy dogs without breeding.

I see this part of the pricing cycle as a win/win for everyone.

Especially in a breed like the GSD which is populous enough to have enough genetic diversity for viability.

Now, if I was a breeder of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels...I'd be worried! :)

The COI of all of them is so high that they're dropping like flies.

http://www.cavalierhealth.org/

 

 






 


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