As a owner of 3 GSD's people I work with naturally come to me for "advice" when buying a puppy. If I had a nickle for evertime I heard "I'm not looking for a showdog, just a pet". I'm so sick of hearing this and just can't convince some people to spend more than $300 on their "just a pet". I finally say...well, just make sure the parents are hip Cert. These are the people who keep the puppy mills in business, always wanting to get something for nothing.
I always remind theM: the cheapest part is buying the dog in the first place. It costs just as much to feed and maintain a good, well-bred, healthy, guaranteed dog for 12-14 yrs. as it does a Those people probably wouldn't have taken care of my puppy anyway.
Better I hang on to them till someone with taste and class... and suffiencient dedication... and funding comes along.
It's simple really. There are plenty of good dogs in the Human shelters. They cost about 45 bucks. They can do anything a two thousand dollar dog can do, except produce "papered" puppies. They should be spayed/neutered. Trained and taken care of, they will give you everything a "pedigreed" dog can give you except puppies. There is any breed you want, in a shelter somewhere. Heck, I can provide a purebred Rottweiler, Mastiff/Boxer cross, and later a purebred GSD (just started training her), if someone will give them a good home. Already obedience trained. All you have to do is pick them up in person in Ohio, so that I can "assess" you :) Refer them to a shelter and make a dog and a person happy.
While I am not against people getting a dog from the pound, I disagree with you Do Right. Many pound dogs have physical or mental issues that are not immediately evident. I think the people that buy the $2000 dollar dog/puppy have a set of requirements that very few pound puppies could fulfill. I know that there are some areas where the pounds have generally higher quality dogs, but I have no experience with those places. Most pound dogs are already screwed up or are unhealthy. I have adopted dogs from the pound over the years, and none worked out. Two were dangerous to my child. One had heartworms so bad, that I had to have her treated..then she still did not work out, I could not let her anywhere near the horses no matter what I tried (this was before the electric collar, that might have worked for her, if it had been available). I have also volunteered at the pound a little, feeling humanitarian, and I was not impressed with what was there. Very few pound dogs have the brains of a well bred GSD. If they did, why bother to breed GSDs at all? Any mutt would do.
I just re-read what I wrote...let me clarify: The dog had heartworms so bad, the vet gave her only a 50-50 chance of surviving. Then, if the horses were near the fence, she wanted to eat them. She barked at the horses constantly, even when they weren't that close. She was not the brightest tool in the shed, but she wasn't a bad dog. She was a UNlovely GSD.
Melanie, I get the same thing daily I just want it for a pet, I am not doing schutzhund looking for a puppy to cost less. What the customer does with his/her puppy does not refect the price I have paid to get the better lines so not sure how the equate this to my price?
I had a guy come to see the puppies driving a Lexus and the first thing he said "just to let you know we just want a pet and will not pay full price for a puppy to be spayed" I looked at him and said, "hey I want to buy your new Lexus will give you 5,000 for it I dont want it for anything just to drive around the neighborhood" That is the only way to drive it home to them.
Have seen some dogs that were bought for two or three hundred dollars and they were not bad at all but have seen more evidence of this price range that have serious health and temperment issues for sure.
I have a rescue dog now a american solid black male who would be a nice pet free. It is a good plan to search the rescue centers it could result in the right fit for the dog and the family, good idea do right and fear no one.
AlabamaK9, that is the best reply I've ever heard! LOL.. I've had EXACTLY the same thing happen, with people showing up, nice new car, kids and wife all well-dressed, and they wanted to go cheap on a puppy. You cannot pay your bills this way, and this is a good part of why I got out of breeding. There are too many cheapskates out there who want something for nothing. Yes.. I should have had this answer for them, and also some pre-printed maps to the dog pound so they could go get something they can afford. That would shame them in front of their wife and kids! Well, I did send a lot of people on their way, and no regrets on that!
By the way, everyone who meets with customers in their home should be very careful. Two young men entered a home in Los Angeles, posing as puppy buyers, and they were armed and brandished weapons, then stole five dogs and puppies.. Yorkshire Terriers. Luckily, it was all caught on a video surveillance system. No breeder should be without this. It is also a good protection against lying animal control officers, if there is ever an incident with them. Keep everyone honest! It's a little investment, but the prices have come so far down that anyone can afford it, and it's money well spent. Even if you don't have a full-blown professional system, you can set up a VCR to record and connect a camera to it, and start it when people come to view the pups. Odds are that these two young guys were animal rights activists. They fit the profile, perfectly, in my opinion. One has turned himself in, and the other is at large, but they know who he is. This absolutely would not have happened if not for the videosurveillance system that recorded the crime. AR activists are probably crapping their pants right now! It's not "business, as usual" for them, anymore!
Yep I've had the same thing too, BUT, I've learned that the best way to keep this from happening is to interview the people over the phone and have an "Application To Purchase a Puppy/Dog" on your website. That way they know everything up front, how much you ask for the pups and what they want to do with it. I never go down on my prices, unless *I* want to! And yes there are good dogs at the dog pounds, some of them are the best! A lot of the k9 trainers scour the pounds and humane societies looking for good candidates for narcotics and bomb detection dogs. They have found good dogs there at times, not always of course :)
Peggy @ knightenhaus
we have a shelter dog (gsd/bel mal mix) and a purebred gsd from a good breeder/trainer. we were able to get a free temperment evaluation from them on our female rescue. we got her at 3 mos. we also had her inboard trained for a few weeks w/them. wasn't cheap but worth every penny! our male wasn't cheap, but we did get a deal and we go to training w/them to make sure we're doing it right. any dog is gonna cost $$$, from the day you buy them til they go to doggie heaven. i see the value in a good dog from a good breeder. nothing is perfect in this world,but a good breeder can help make your choice the right one. i have confidence that my gsd is a good dog w/good ongoing training and interest from the breeder. gsd rescue groups can be helpful for people, but i'd recommend an "outside" evaluation for any dog. the rescue people are very devoted, but sometimes too idealistic as opposed to realistic.we love both our dogs and they are both good and healthy, and in 12-15 years i'll go back to a good breeder for a good (not cheap) dog.
I tell people the price on the first conversation. The last thing I want to do is waste 2 hrs. of my time on someone who doesn't want to pay the price I am asking for my well-bred, well-cared-for puppies.
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