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BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 08 September 2015 - 04:09

 


I,m not a breeder from GSD

I only read in Holland the rules from VDH  female must  at least 20 months old
for breeding the first litter, there must also be a break at least 10 months old between A to B litter.

http://duitseherder.nl/system/files/734f3359e6f133c74a5acee9f9ff496b.pdf

 

 

I have talked with some serious breeders and most of them will not breed  back to back

 

I understand  also for  some backyard breeders/  puppy mills  have/making  there own rules and don,t care
 

 


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 08 September 2015 - 07:09

I've assisted in one back-to-back breeding; I would probably do this again/too if breeding my own stock - but it was and would be only in specific circumstances. I am half-swayed by the unfolding science but would like to see more research & evidence that it is true that pregnancy after pregnancy with no barren interval is some guarantee against pyo (which btw is a horrific experience for the bitch, I hate seeing a full-blown pyo case !).

The 'specific circumstances' ?   A mature bitch; very healthy; not her first litter. Her 2nd litter (after a 2-year gap) was small - only 4 pups (all of which were healthy at that point and survived into adulthood); so she was mated again at the following season, and had 7 that time, again all healthy. She was fine afterward but looked a little drained ! However she recovered within normal parameters and then would have been allowed to rest for at least one year,  but for unconnected reasons the decision was taken to retire her so she didn't have any more litters.  She was spayed and eventually found a 'retirement home' where she was an only dog.   

So - Kennel Club Rules, or governmental Legislation aside,  I don't think the practice of back-2-back litters is always necessarily bad.  But it is, if done badly, with no regard for the dog or her pups.  And if done constantly;  or too early, when the bitch is too young; or carried on when she is too old.  A difference between a breeder and a puppy-farmer, I guess.


BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 08 September 2015 - 08:09


Can not find the thanx bottum for all answers the well knowledgeable breeders sure know what they
are doing.......


by Blitzen on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

BM, maybe your advice would be better taken on the Malinois forum?


susie

by susie on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

BlackMal, I do have problems reading your link, but
reu = male ? 2.3 they are talking about the age of the "reu" only
teef = female ? 2.1 they are talking about "teef" and forbidden inbreeding, but not about age
The males have to be 20 months old, but what about the FEMALES ?

Lost in translation...

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

 


@ Blitz ?????


@ Susie not female is at least 20 months

 

They talk about combi  brother X sister, Father X daughter,son , grandfather    inbreeding is forbidden

 


susie

by susie on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

Where did you find the text "teef" has to be 20 months old, too ?
Really wondering

Forgot to add - I understood the "inbreeding" part. Wink Smile


BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

@ Susie

3. WELZIJNSREGELS (Artikel VIII.1 KR)
3.1. Een teef mag niet worden gedekt vóór de dag waarop zij de leeftijd van
20 maanden heeft bereikt.

susie

by susie on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

I guess I found it by myself - 3.1

susie

by susie on 08 September 2015 - 13:09

Thank you, we posted to the same time !

Did you find any explanation for the pup born when the female was 15 months old though?

Maybe a mistake on workingdogs?






 


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