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susie

by susie on 22 September 2015 - 16:09

I guess, Dog1 is right, " not enough participants " simply means " no interest ".
Why fight for a dying organization? The single clubs do have the choice to become members of the stronger organizations in the US.
The dogs don´t care...

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 22 September 2015 - 16:09

If corruption is the topic them lets include the USCA and the AWDF which have both been as corrupt as corrupt can be. If corruption were the cause of the WDA problems then the USCA would have died a long time ago. The WDA seems to be withering as are all GSD IPO based organizations because of lower overall membership and participation in IPO worldwide in combination with corruption and their membership's tolerance for corruption. The membership of the USCA simply has embraced and fully participated in corruption while the membership of the WDA has a lower tolerance and lower participation rate in corruption than the USCA. The WDA is withering because it's membership is split with some tolerating corruption and some intolerant whereas the USCA and their leadership down to the club level is willing to accept corruption so long as it benefits the USCA. Watching the USCA, the WDA, and the GSDCA battling is like watching the last three dinosaurs on Earth kill each other to gain supremacy while the rest of the GSD owners who don't give a rip about either of the three go about their business and continue to thrive. The USCA, GSDCA, and the WDA are insignificant. I can breed and register GSD all day without being a member of any of these organizations. Of the three organizations the GSDCA has the claim by a squeak to the high ground. The GSDCA has run their own show and bred dogs in the USA while the USCA and the WDA have contributed nothing to GSD breeding in the USA as these organizations import their GSD from Europe primarily. The US bred bloodline GSD from the WDA and the USCA have amounted to zip as an influence on the GSD population of the USA.

susie

by susie on 22 September 2015 - 16:09

" I can breed and register GSD all day without being a member of any of these organizations. "

HALLELUJA to AKC - everybody is able to register everything - no matter about DNA, conformation, working abilities, and health.
At the end it´s a worthful "working" dog.

Sorry, Bubba, I don´t know your dogs, this was a general statement about AKC.

Cutaway

by Cutaway on 22 September 2015 - 20:09

" I can breed and register GSD all day without being a member of any of these organizations. "

Yes, yes you can!!! And how cool is it that the AKC doesn't care when breeders do 1:1 breeding or breed to males with undescended testicles or breed to dogs that are dysplastic or even breed so maliciously that the breed has lost the ability to naturally reproduce... All hale the AKC as they still recognize and crown champion a dog that is in such poor health due to breeding that it has to constantly rest on a cool pad as the dog will over heat. Yes lets put the AKC on a pedestal because it allows breeders like you to breed indiscriminately and recognize that its a true representation of the breed.

I am sure you are not part of these practices and your ethics guide you better. And as much as you get on here and condem all the other organizations along with those who support them by being memebers and as much as you state how worthless any of the sports are as they do not test a dog in any way. I really really want to know what it is you and your kennel have done to better the breed? 


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 23 September 2015 - 13:09

"I am sure you are not part of these practices and your ethics guide you better."

Are you?


by vk4gsd on 23 September 2015 - 13:09

Aaaah, bubba does not title his dogs because that would be enabling corruption. What an awesome guy.

by gsdstudent on 23 September 2015 - 14:09

bbbb mentioned Agility in another thread. maybe he can exert his huge influence on the dominence of border collies handled by female tri atheletes and all of the coruption there. Agility's gain will sadly be our loss.

by Bob McKown on 23 September 2015 - 14:09

Booboo:


Still wearing that tin foil hat I see.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 23 September 2015 - 16:09

I and 4.5 million other GSD owners in the USA do not believe the BS that biting dog sports nuts peddle that the only way to breed good GSD is to obey the SV and to use a jute sleeve to determine which dogs are fit for breeding. Look around and every biting sport in the USA is smaller each year than the last with fewer and older members .. which is something of an accomplishment as these sports were always insignificant because the membership is exclusionary, corrupt, and so arrogant they think they should tell everyone else what they want from a GSD. The SV is going to start promoting Agility and other non-biting sports because the SV values power and money. Agility and other non-biting sports are growing while the IPO sport in Germany has halved in membership the last 20 years or less. The same hold true in the USA and the world .. the biting sports have lost members as the younger generations have rejected the exclusionary and arrogant culture found in the biting sports. The 1960-1990 culture of Schutzhund/IPO and biting sports which was cruel and overly demanding of the dogs and produced some dangerous dogs which caused many in Germany and Europe to turn away from biting sports. A new generation of trainers began pushing out the cruel training methods and dangerous dogs from biting sports by using positive training methods. However the arrogance and exclusionary nature of the biting sport clubs and organizations combined with institutionalized cheating have driven the nails in their coffin in combination with the general citizen population's distrust of biting dog sports.


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 23 September 2015 - 16:09

I play in agility too. Agility isn't a growing sport anymore. When I first started 2 ring trials would fill the day entries open. Now clubs are struggling to fill one ring trials. The sports that seem to be growing are dock diving, nosework and barn hunt. My theory? Because they're lazy sports for the handlers. Just stand in one place and the dog does all the work. In schutzhund and especially agility the handler has to move too. Training for those sport is also much more time consuming that the others. I've seen people enter barn hunt trials after only a couple of practice sessions with the rats. Why train for years when these sports allow you to compete after a few weeks of work?





 


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