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susie

by susie on 20 January 2016 - 19:01

For what? For IPO dogs becoming RH dogs? There are no IRO IPO judges, never will be, it´s totally different.
That said, this idea is nonsense, IRO is what it is, search and rescue - that´s interesting, and a lot of peole like it, but has nothing to do with IPO.
In case I like to swim, you will never convince me to become a runner, or a chess player ...

momosgarage

by momosgarage on 20 January 2016 - 19:01

@susie, just because your current SV contacts don't know about it, doesn't mean a program was NEVER developed. Go through the various SV board meeting minutes for the last 7 years and you will see how the program operated or was intended to operate. I concede that I don't know if its still valid, but it CERTAINLY existed.

Are you or have been an SV judge or served on a comitte for the SV?

Note this isn't an argument about breed survey eligability, or whether a an IPO title and an RH title are equivalent, whether people prefer one over the other, etc.  This is strictly about whether a program existed, at one time, to cross certify SV and IRO judges.  I say that there was one, based on my understanding of the SV board's past meeting notes.


susie

by susie on 20 January 2016 - 19:01

I am neither, I just tend to read.

Although this official text is written in German, I hope you are able to understand the meaning...

https://www.schaeferhunde.de/fileadmin/SV/Documents/Broschueren/info_zba_950_Rettungshundesport.pdf

There is cooperation in case of RH, but not in case of anything else - sorry.


momosgarage

by momosgarage on 20 January 2016 - 19:01

@susie, again, read the older board meeting notes.

susie

by susie on 20 January 2016 - 19:01

Not going to search for it - are you able to post them?
Once again, sorry, but as long as there are no official statements about this matter there is no case.
OR are you aware of any IRO judge being an IPO judge WITHIN IRO, without being a member and IPO judge of SV, RSV, DVG, or else ??? IRO ONLY trains and titles IRO, nothing else.

susie

by susie on 20 January 2016 - 20:01

You added: "Note this isn't an argument about breed survey eligability, or whether a an IPO title and an RH title are equivalent, whether people prefer one over the other, etc. This is strictly about whether a program existed, at one time, to cross certify SV and IRO judges. I say that there was one, based on my understanding of the SV board's past meeting notes."

I right now don´t understand what you are trying to tell me...

THERE IS A COOPERATION between SV and IRO, I confirmed that....BUT It IS RESTRICTED TO RH TRIALS AND TITLES ONLY - NO IPO

and this doesn´t help anybody who is interested in IPO. Is this that difficult to understand?

WDA does have several choices, they could become member of DVG or something else, their members could become SV foreign members, they could even reinvent the wheel and start an own program - a lot of choices, but I doubt the current presidency of WDA is willing to become "a part of".


susie

by susie on 20 January 2016 - 20:01

Momo, it´s not fair to change posts later on, just saw you changed on page 2 too.

We do get along normally, but rules are rules.

judron55

by judron55 on 20 February 2016 - 14:02

Well....this happened yesterday.......Chairman for the 2016 National IPO3 & Seiger Show Championship....

It is with much regret that I have to inform you, of my decision to remove my self from being the chair for The 2016 National IPO3 & Seiger Show Championship.
The last few months has been more than mentally & emotionally taxing specially by having to interact with the leaders of the GSDCA that don't understand the process or principles that it takes and demand -to present a great venue and Championship event.
Members of the G S D C A board- has made it extremely difficult for me to be able to provide the necessary basic components such as Block of hotel rooms by not approving the advance deposit that's required for the competitors to have a host Hotel where they and their dogs will be secured and comfortable with rooms!!
A restaurant or hall to have the competitors draw.
The Tee Shirt purchase was an endless battle. All just pity stuff.
This type of behavior has left me mentally and emotionally drained & stressed to the point where I have decided that in best interest of my health -integrity and character, to disassociate my self from the whole event.


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 20 February 2016 - 15:02

Sad news this type of conduct is not going to further the cause for Schutzhund with AKC


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 20 February 2016 - 19:02

The document Susie loaded is dated April 2013. If that
describes the current situation, Momo, then why does it
matter if about 7 years ago there was a proposal about
incorporating Search&Rescue in any way ? Clearly the
proposal was either not taken up at all, or experimented
with but found wanting and not adopted thereafter. OK
the SV like all other organisations ought to dot the 'i's and
cross the 't's by making sure there is a paperwork record
of such events, but loads of ideas in loads of hobbies or
other fields get tried out then abandoned later. Not every
development can be held to be still important after it has
ceased operating.





 


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