Thoughts on Limited Registration - Page 1

Hi all-
What are your thoughts on selling puppies on limited registration, and then lifting it to full once dog is health tested and titled?
I'm okay with it, and have a young dog on a similar agreement.
I have read very mixed opinions of the matter.

Not a fan of such practice, though I understand the reasoning. Primary reason I usually import my pup/dogs.

Not a fan in any way, shape, or form. I'll only use limited registration for a puppy with a glaring fault (like, hypothetically, a bob-tail or something equally not to standard), otherwise I espouse full registration.

Counterwise, I have no interest in a pup from a breeder who primarily does limited registration. My hesitations stem from the question: If the breeders have such doubt of the offsprings' potential, why are they even breeding the parents? Limited registration will also not prevent backyard breeders from using the dog for breeding stock, then registering the offspring with some group like the Continental Kennel Club.

Another thing I absolutely hate to see is when, for only a few hundred dollars more, the same breeder will sell puppies with full registration. More money spent doesn't mean the owners will be any better caliber, nor will a higher sale price somehow make the pup better. This seems like shady dealings to me.

I see limited registration the most with breeds not common in the US, and I firmly believe this is because the breeder wants to control competition for their lines. I was looking at Tibetan Mastiffs several years ago, and nearly every US breeder sold puppies exclusively with limited registration. If I find a breeder who sells primarily with limited registrations, I will move past them and look elsewhere.

I also hate when sellers have different pricing for different levels of registration.
I for sure understand your points, but as I'm sure you know, great dog+great dog doesn't always equal great dog.

I DO NOT like nor use "Limited Registrations"...I believe when someone buys a puppy or dog that they are entitled to the Registration...without strings...

AKC people are the ones that use "Limited Registrations"...They don't want people to use their bloodlines to compete against them...If someone uses my dogs/breedings and do well in Trials and/or breed them and produce well...I'm very happy...It makes me feel very good...

It's a whole different world between Working Dog people and U.S. Show people and then different then the way they feel in Europe...

~Bob~

Maybe just breeders trying to keep lax breedings from occurring. A higher price sets a buyer to thinking their intent in advance. there is no way to control the problem just a rather faulty (my opinion) but purposeful and sometimes successful method to keep people not that committed to breeding from doing it just so the kids can see a litter.

Why does the breeder have to be a crap breeder because they give Limited

I give Limited.  I have a price on a pup if it is to much for the buyer I will offer Limited and they pay LESS.

For me the only reason for "limited registration" has a breeder who wants to see a certain standard ( HD/ED/IPO/show rating, whatever ) prior to breeding out of dogs bred by him/herself - but in that case ALL puppies should be sold on "limited registration" only, and they should be registered by the breeders kennel name, never by the new kennel name of the buyer.

This is a problem we don´t have to deal with, because our dogs have to meet the criteria set up by SV. No buyer is able to breed a pedigreed litter without SV standard.

As long as there are no rules in your country, I´d sell every puppy with limited registration only, and as soon as the adult dog is able to achieve my requirements prior to breeding, I´d change to full registration without any money paid, simply because I am proud of my dogs.

I agree with susie 100%.
I don't see breeders selling pups on LR to restrict competition, I see it as a way to protect their lines. Yes it is possible for the buyer to go behind the breeder's back and still breed, and that you can't make people follow your wishes 100%.

Not sure what the difference is between the SV limited must meet a groups standard or pups won't be papered and a breeders standard must meet the breeders standard or the pups won't be papered. For people who dislike that process what exactly is the difference? In my mind none really. I guess some would not like the SV rules imposed on them as well in order for a argument to have validity.