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by joanro on 22 January 2016 - 20:01

"Joan you presented a number of pictures with the photographer being far away from the dog. My issue is that if you are within 5 feet of your dog...the dog is obviously not focus in on anything else.. but does not even bat an eyelid on the near by owner.
Show me how it is logical that this set of observations can only be explained by self confidence and not by the notion of a active bond between dog and owner?"

Your argument is unwinnable. The pics I posted were not so far away. How do you know the pic you posted of the sable pup sitting, looking at something beyond him, was not taken from one hundred feet away using a zoom lens ? How do you know that sable pup who was residing in Arizona desert when pic was taken, was not worn out by running and playing for two or three hours before pic was taken? It's windy and hot in Arizona, even in winter, the air and wind will suck the moisture from a living being...how do you know that pup wasn't ready to crash like your dog did in your pic where she was too exhausted to even open an eye. (or could it be she is unhappy and depressed and ignoring her owner taking pic?)

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 22 January 2016 - 21:01

Emotional well being is observable in a particular dog if you know the dog. Much of the communication between a dog and humans is based on body language and " face time expressions " with some of it being generalized to all dogs but much also being specific to the individual dog.

yogidog

by yogidog on 22 January 2016 - 21:01

Mithuna every time you are in 10 feet of your dog her eyes are on you .😁😁😁you must have forgotten your last thread you started the one about the vet . why are her eyes not on you then or when you are walking her and someone is on front of her what happens then .that time in the beach where was her recall then you must be out of you 10 feet contact zone . Your full of **** you can fill that yourself .A hundred photos.it works both way inside or outside does not matter depending on the time and love u put into your dog if u spent more time training your dog instead of eye balling her you might get the focus u want

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 23 January 2016 - 02:01

Joan said what I was thinking. ZOOM LENS.

An image

Poor temperament? Pensive? Insecure? Or maybe this was taken from hundreds of yards away, in the house, and he wasn't even aware of my presence and was instead watching a neighbor.

 

Below...aware of my presence. I'm outside standing in front of him for this shot.

An image

 

I agree that you can see things from a dog's expression, but good grief...not one shot with zero information about the circumstances. 


by joanro on 23 January 2016 - 02:01

So true, Jenni. Plus, the 'low resolution' of the pics I posted could be because of freezing rain falling during pic taking ? Just maybe, and not because of great distance between dog and camera.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 23 January 2016 - 02:01

Jenni

Can you clearly state what you are trying to explain / illustrate?

by hntrjmpr434 on 23 January 2016 - 02:01

She is trying to explain that you cannot judge a dog by one picture with zero information.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 23 January 2016 - 02:01

That about covers it.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 23 January 2016 - 03:01

The picture was just used as a visual illustration , but the principle is that if the owner is physically near the dog, a sign of a functional bond/relationship is that the dog becomes obviously alert to the owner"s presence . Exceptions to this may include the dog's health or physical state at the time or the focus of the dog on some other activity, especially involving a primary drive.
Attempting to introduce semantics involving whether or not a picture is taken with a zoom or prime lens introduces noise into a model that is otherwise simple.

In fact Joan was the one who said the dog was pensive and therefore environmentally attuned and by extension of good genetics , based on a single photo ( the one of the dog I posted on this thread ).


Mithuna

by Mithuna on 23 January 2016 - 03:01

Jenni
I thought Hexe had sent you into hiding?





 


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