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by beetree on 29 February 2016 - 17:02

Someone explain to me again how we went from evaluating a hypothetical litter of puppies  to offensive/defensive protection and interanglo politics of prong collars.

So hard to keep up these days.

Pete,

I would think it is obvious! The OP included the open invitation when he asked for : Any view points? 

 

And he got them!

Shades Smile


by joanro on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

Matches..

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

Bee
I asked about the potential of a specific litter. And a few spoke about my current dog.

Koots

by Koots on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

Your thread title states " Intending to get a pup from this dog", whereupon several people gave opinions about the litter, and more expressed concern about your ability to train more than one dog at a time.

by gsdstudent on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

koots. I for one do not concern myself with weather mithuna can train more than one dog at a time. I am certain he is over matched with the first dog. The second will be a little worst than the first due to influence of the ''alpha'' female GSD, poor socialization, and a novice handler.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

First dog was socialized as much as possible. At a certain age the dog just went from exuberant and outgoing to not wanting to interact with anyone outside the pack. Why force something on her that she simply does not want to do? Shes now an almost 90 lb muscular alert family loving female who have to be carefully supervised.

by beetree on 29 February 2016 - 18:02

Mithuna,

True, but it is the nature of this site's community to include all information gleaned in an ongoing basis when forming their responses. Asking everyone to compartmentalize their past information from previous posts is not exactly a realistic expectation.

You would have to be very specific in your request and let people know you don't care about their ideas in such a regard.

And just so you know, for the most part, the resistance you might have perceived from such unsolicited advice, generally comes from everyone's "good place".

I could be way off with my take, because I haven't been following everything you have written so far, but... you are unique in that you are a city apartment dweller and first time GSD puppy owner? And this dog must be kept separated when company is over, and is possibly dog reactive? And the very thought of acquiring a second dog when the first one is still a work in progress, screams... you are very optimistic with your goals. And for the most part, I certainly can not speak for everybody, but our collective experiences tells us you do not have the experience level to predict what you really need, to make your goals safe and successful.

We know this by certain things you say and don't say, that you probably have no idea about, at this time. It is very good that you have— as you say, real life experienced folk that are guiding you, and I trust there are things these persons know that we don't know about you, and will help you see around certain corners.

You don't have people kids, do you? If you don't mind my asking?

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 February 2016 - 19:02

This is my 3rd GSD but first WL. Yes one 13 yr old child , and our dog is absolutely social with all family members.

by beetree on 29 February 2016 - 19:02

Mithuna,

A certain aloofness is a characteristic of the breed. That in itself is not a problem and really GSD owners like that their dog won't be hopping into the back of any stranger's truck that happens to drive by.

The problem is, that you are accepting your dog's unwillingness to tolerate your friends. That in itself tells us you are letting the tail wag the dog. Your dog is calling the shots. What you really should be addressing is getting your dog to tolerate other people...and that includes the vet, because you, his master requires it. She doesn't have to tolerate their petting and hugs, she just has to know how to be calm around other people and not bite them unprovoked. You have to have superb control. Locking a dog in a room really isn't control, it is situation management.

I myself in my earlier days of learning about the differences inherent in lines, especially, a WL dog's, also had a (couple) dogs that had to be carefully supervised. Not a walk in the park! Very, stressful and yes, your lifestyle is greatly impacted. Especially with a teenager who I presume has friends come over on a regular basis.

I too, think you should rise to the challenge of dealing with the first dog's anti-social issues before you take on a second dog. The second dog WILL learn from the first one, and you want to make sure it is the behavior you want him to emulate, not the other.

by vk4gsd on 29 February 2016 - 19:02

I disagree, rubbing sticks is kinda neat. Matches meh.






 


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