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susie

by susie on 11 July 2017 - 17:07

My monthly rant - sorry

Dogs are for sale out of different reasons, but the seller most often won´t tell you the truth.
When reading the ads all dogs seem to be "world class" dogs, without any faults.
That´s not possible...( when you think about it, easy to realise ).

A breeder who kept a puppy for 10 months or even longer hoped to get a dog worthful for his breeding program. So why is he willing to sell all of a suddden???

Some possibilities:

- the pre x-rays ( HD/ED ) haven´t been good enough ( Do you care about health ? )
- the temperament is not according to the breeders standard ( Ask yourself: is your standard lower ? )
- the conformation is not good enough ( Do you care about conformation ? there is a breed standard )
- training problems ( are you able to do better ? Don´t you care about good temperament/drives ? )
- kennel reduction/too many dogs ( but why THIS dog, and not another one ? There always is a choice...)
- money problems / private problems ( in this case you may be able to get a very good dog )

trained, but not titled? WHY ?
bred, but not titled ( maybe even too young ? ) ? WHY ?
out of untitled sire/dam? WHY ?

Think about the reasons...

- No good trainer will sell a really good working prospect
- No breeder will sell a really good breeding prospect
- No exhibitor will sell a really good show prospect...

- You may be able to buy a very good brood bitch AFTER she at least had 3 litters ( 4 years +, the next generation competing already )...
- You may be able to buy a very good working dog AFTER he or she achieved everything possible ( 6 years +, enough offspring around ) ...
- You may be able to buy a very good show dog AFTER he or she achieved everything possible ( 5 years + , at least 2 times successfully shown in the working class, the next generation already successfully shown )...

for a LOT of money - ( prooven, tested, "worth" the money ).

You don´t care about all of this?
In this case you don´t need to import at all, there are enough good dogs in your home country, fitting your needs.

You want to buy "European pedigrees" ? The standards do differ, so do the dogs...
Better to invest your hard earned money and fly to Europe by yourself...pictures are not dogs...
and there are more than enough "solid" dogs for reasonable costs.

You only want to make money out of the GSD breed?
No need to invest much money, just buy locally 2 registered pups and breed...there are enough fools out there who don´t ask about temperament, health, and conformation...
really no need to import 2. class dogs...

End of my monthly rant




Koots

by Koots on 11 July 2017 - 17:07

It does make me wonder when I read an ad that says something like "don't ask why the dog(s) is for sale"....

 

If I was going to be buying a dog (young/adult dog, not a pup) then I certainly would want to know why it is up for sale.


by duke1965 on 11 July 2017 - 18:07

1000 valid reasons as well for people to part with their dog, little bit too much drama for me

a dog that doesnot make it in IPO can spend the rest of his life in a kennel, or be a happy housedog somewhere else

2 dogs fighting in a familyhome sometimes are better to be separated

thousands of dogs in the shelters, better sell them and give them good home before bringing to shelter

can go on and on

 


susie

by susie on 11 July 2017 - 19:07

Drama? Maybe, but nobody on earth needs to import any dog to give him "a good home" -
there are waiting more than enough dogs in local shelters - there are "family companions" at every corner waiting for a good forever home....

I am talking to people importing GSDs just because they think they always get "better dogs" from Europe than from the local breeder, be it for breeding or be it for competing.

It´s a naive dream to believe a breeder will sell a good dog in its prime,
and it´s a naive dream to believe a handler/trainer will sell a good dog in its prime.

"Outstanding dogs" , in case the owner really is in need of money, will find their way to friends, other breeders, or competitors ( or you have to pay A LOT of money ). "Normal" dogs will find their way overseas for the same money "friends" paid for the outstanding ones...

Sometimes a little logic helps.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 12 July 2017 - 02:07

I saw a very nice looking bitch out of a top stud for sale on the PDB. Her picture was up for MONTHS, which had me wondering what was going on. It would disappear for awhile then re-appear

Then the seller confessed what was going on: she was female aggressive!

I wonder how many prospective buyers didn't find this out until they took her home!

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 July 2017 - 03:07

Susie, maybe these things are true often, but certainly not always.

I have gotten too many great dogs from too many honest Europeans who told the truth about the dogs and the reason for sale. MANY MANY reasons to sell a dog that have NOTHING to do with the quality of the dog. I've sold some really great dogs I loved a lot because it was better for the dog. Sometimes, you realize the best place for a particular dog is not your home for a myriad of reasons, several of which Duke alluded to.

Training issues- sometimes someone else CAN do better if there was a relationship problem with former owner
Not getting along with other dog- I just placed a great dog because an older dog I have here hated her with a passion. Unsafe situation with kids in the house- just one mistake would/could be deadly. Dog got a fantastic home and I can breathe easy again.
No time to train a good prospect- in the process right now of putting a great prospect in another home because I know the dog will go to waste here with my son's activities and schedule. I'd rather see the dog titled elsewhere than untitled here.

I don't think everyone is dishonest. Perhaps naive, but like I said, I've gotten too many nice dogs from honest sellers.
 


by Bavarian Wagon on 12 July 2017 - 13:07

A good dog to some people, is a great dog to others. Depending on experience a dog that doesn't work out for one person...could be considered very nice by someone else.

I do think susie is right that unless you're spending a good chunk of change, you're not getting as good of a dog as you believe you might be when importing. If a person is primarily a breeder and is selling a dog, there's definitely something they see in the dog that they don't like. A competitor...there's a chance the dog just doesn't live up to their expectation but is a pretty good dog and would live up perfectly to someone else's expectations.

by Centurian on 12 July 2017 - 14:07

BW , your are right ... dogs are like people . We all have gifts and so it is with a dog. Different gifts and talents for each poeple and dogs alike .
Many people in the general poulation don't now many police officers scout and visit the shlters in my area for potential canine /working dogs. So , yes BW , you make poinant comment . For what other people have given up for or considered , excuse the harshness , trash as a canine , can be a diamond to someone else .

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 12 July 2017 - 19:07

Better in other homes reasons
I HAVE MADE MY MONEY OFF THIS DOG time to move um out to keep room open to buy another money maker and keep til their monetary usefulness is expired.
Don't t have time for this one but have enough time for next breedable female until done breeding her and on and on...
I am more than proud to declare parents and grandparents on premises. My dogs don't lose value as they grow old their value becomes 'priceless'
May not have room /time for a new dog. But the time never runs out for my old ones.
We would have to bunk under a bridge together if it ever came to that.

susie

by susie on 12 July 2017 - 20:07

Kit, you are a unicorn -

I never understood why people "have to make place" because they "have to breed", as if the breed would die out in case they would stop breeding for some years.

Love you





 


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