RE: SERBIAN BREEDERS - Page 2

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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 01 June 2020 - 15:06

HiredDog, right on !

Dawn G. Bonome

by Dawn G. Bonome on 01 June 2020 - 16:06

HiredDog and Hundmutter.

YESSSSSS! Spot on.

by Lord on 05 June 2020 - 04:06

My friends has been scammed by Radovan Plavsic and his son Djordje Plavsic


charlie319

by charlie319 on 12 June 2020 - 01:06

I set out to purchase one dog from Krndijayu Kennel. A nice female with about 65% Kirschental lines and had already birthed one litter and was out of a nicely bred Piste Trophe female. I ended up buying two, the other being a maternal half brother to her, sired by Quoran D'Ulmental... Starting price was not a bargain, but I whittled it down quite a bit through negotiation tactics. I'd be lying if I said I was not leery of the whole process, but you do your due diligence and trust that you did the work right.

Both dogs arrived in Dallas in excellent condition. The male took a little time to get comfortable, but in the end he did. Athletic, excellent temperament, intelligent, brave and so far has produced two very good looking litters with very nice males. He actually has exceeded my expectations. The female took to the new environment like a fish to water. Super temperament, high energy, a little fireplug. There was a bit of a hangup with the papers due to address misprint, but in time it got sorted out and I have no complaints.

Many that get scammed fail to do their due diligence in their haste to make a deal and get their ROI. Also, a scammer won't negotiate much... he's in a hurry to take your money. An honest tradesman will negotiate a fair price... work the process... Granted, I was not purchasing a offspring of a. Glitzy VA male, but a female with a specific type of pedigree to increase Kirschental lines into breeding program. Remember... if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't...

I would recommend Krndijayu kennels.

Kinolog

by Kinolog on 28 July 2020 - 10:07

People may not like to hear this, but in some places overseas, American buyers have bad reputations with breeders. They will not send their best dogs here, and they will take advantage for a number of reasons.

They see Americans as greedy and gullible, and mostly motivated by money. They want super dogs almost for free. But even if you are working class, our standard of living is often still so much higher in some countries. I remember this perception being overseas as a child. I had my experiences with culture shock as a very young age.

I have noticed some Americans presenting themselves to foreign breeders in a way that is actually extremely off-putting to Europeans. We can start out very fawning and overly agreeable and trusting. But when things are not going our way, then we resort very quickly to anger, cursing, name-calling, and threats way too soon, before fully understanding what is going on. And in general, we are overly familiar. This is offensive to people who see us as strangers treating them in an unprofessional manner. Treating someone like this is almost like a signal that we are not mature, smart, serious people, and perhaps not totally honest.

And the attitude from us that they should be more like Americans and not treat us that way is just American imperialism, superiority, and arrogance. Especially when you are dealing with people for whom have thousands of dollars to throw around on dogs is a huge luxury. In modern times we have class mobility, but one thing you simply cannot buy is good breeding and culture. But there are countries overseas where decades of economic and political instability, and grinding poverty have created a very robust mob culture of thugs and gangs trying to out-thug each other while giving the impression of living large. Like some people in the USA.

Take Russia, for example. The exchange rate from rubles to American dollars is about 20 cents on the dollar. However, the Euro, which a lot of European countries use in exchange for dollars is about 1:1.2 favoring the Euro. Even with the Polish zloty, there used to be a huge disparity. Now, not so much. But exchange rates can be shadows of what is actually going on monetarily.

There is still a lot of skepticism about American intentions, and Trump is not exactly raising our profile. He is the stereotypical Amercian, loud, arrogant, superior, and believes his money can buy him ANYTHING.

Not all Europeans think this way or are willing to cheat Americans, using our generosity and trusting, easy-going nature against us. If you intend to drop big bucks with any breeder, it is well worth your while to actually fly out and go in person to check out the dogs and develop a professional relationship. Unless you have trustworthy contacts in that country and simply will not go in person. And I would recomment going with someone who knows the country or area and is fluent in at least one European language.

Like it or not, this is how it is. If you are not willing to display a proper demeanor, and bring backup with expertise, you may not necessarily be scammed but taken advantage of in some way. Hey, we do the same thing in this country amongst ourselves. Sure, it sucks. But that's the cost of doing business overseas. That's the reputation that Americans in general have over there, and you may be fighting those impressions even if you do not personally deserve them. That's not to say that there aren't breeders who will be more on the up-and-up. But they may have had more positive experiences, and possibly have relatives in the USA.


by ThatWasClose on 28 July 2020 - 12:07

How are American's supposed to change if they are not provided the rules of gracefully correct conduct?

'Eagerly awaiting your exhibition of the rules of engagement, country by country.

by ValK on 28 July 2020 - 13:07

Europe is very diverse place and always have been.
dealing with people overseas mainly depends on established herd mentality in this or that particular country.
the richer the country the less chance to bump into crooks. that applies not only to Europe but also to any part of the world.

by ThatWasClose on 28 July 2020 - 17:07

Dear American's, in further attempt to educate us, I took the liberty to look up the word "kinolog." Which translates into English, from both Slovenian & Russian, as Cynologist. Definition of cynologist: one that specializes in the care and training of dogs.

Rik

by Rik on 28 July 2020 - 21:07

I guess I've been lucky. Have participated in dogs in the U.S. for 40+ years in several different venues, been to Europe , met many, many great people and made long time friends.

there are good and bad in any country, any area you choose. but I'm calling bullsh#t on this stereotype, arrogant, American dog person.

and anybody thinks there are not shysters and crooks in the U.S dog world, just start tossing money out to people you don't know anything about.

by ThatWasClose on 28 July 2020 - 22:07

Nah, Rik, we are basically a bunch of uncouth arseholes & getting worse & more ignorant with each passing generation; all the while still opening our checkbooks at the drop of the hat to help out the latest disaster victims in any foreign nation.


Plenty of nice dogs in America one can purchase...





 


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