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by geordiegaviino on 05 August 2010 - 19:08

1/2 blue Great Dane, and 1/2 Rodesian Ridgeback - i can only imagine how stunning that dog must of been Windwalker

Doberman.. German Shepherd is part of making the doberman along with rottweiler,german pincher,australian shepherd,great dane,black greyhound.etc..  Them are deffintly some dogs i didnt expect Rioko

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 05 August 2010 - 19:08

The German Shepherd is not part of the lineage of a Dobermann and neither was the Rottweiler.  Check your history a little further.  Dobermann is spelled with 2 "n"s and Pinscher is spelled with an "s".

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 05 August 2010 - 19:08

Geordie,
the White Shepherd is recognized as a separate breed by the FCI and is called Berger Blanc Suisse, or in plain English White Swiss Shepherd Dog (WSSD): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berger_Blanc_Suisse .
Here is a link to the breed club's information in English for your convenience: www.berger-blanc-international.com/english/index.html .
I think these are beautiful dogs and would own one in a heartbeat if the AKC recognized their breed status as well.
Chris

by owl01 on 05 August 2010 - 23:08

We own a Northen Inuit dog.He is one of  those joyful dogs who always seems to be smiling.He is a natural nanny to pups,is a real friend to my young son,they play football together but he is equally happy to be whichever character is the villian of the game today although with other dogs play can get very boistrous.His tail rarely stops waving and he loves everyone.He is a big substantial agile dog,powerful but not aware of his strength,standing 29 inches to the shoulder.I understand him to be topsize for the breed.He has been easy enough to train to basic obediance and rarely pulls as he was taught not to as a pup.If he does lunge he could take a person off their feet.
As I understand it as a breed they are non confrontational,if you want a guard dog dont count on it from one of these.It is said they like to dig and our boy specializes in trenches!It is also said you should instill a good recall as otherwise they may be inclined to keep going once they start running,not necessarily away from you but they cover a lot of ground fast.They may suffer with separation anxiety and do seem to form strong bonds with their owners.If they have enough exercise they are laid back around the house.I have found our male to respond well to positive fun motivational training with some occasional help from livercake treats :-)
I will say our male fits what i have described,obviously others experiences may be different but I can truthfully say I am bowled over by how loving and serene he always is and his temperament is superb for his job which is a family dog.
Healthwise as always it pays to do your reasearch and only buy from a breeder who does the relevant health tests and hip scores.
Good Luck!

by Erica Lynn on 06 August 2010 - 03:08

AKC does recognize white GSD.  They are just ineligible for conformation shows.  UKC (United) recognizes them as either White Shepherd or GSD.  They are eligible for conformation shows but must show in the ring with the breed they are registered as.  There's really no difference in them and the GSD.  Different lines have different conformation and temperaments same as colored GSD.  Health is directly affected by lines.  I own two out of lines known for producing good health and temperaments.  I've never had a problem with either of them.  One is turning five this month and has OFA Good hips, Normal elbows, Cardiac, CERF (03/10), MDR1 N/N, and DM N/N.  She also has her UKC championship shown as WS.  The other is going to be six in November.  He has OFA Good hips, Normal elbows, Cardiac, CERF (10/08), MDR1 N/N, DM N/N, PennHip, and a normal TLI (03/10).  He has his UKC championship as WS and his HIC on sheep.  They're great family pets and not bad for exercise buddies either. :)

There are a lot of people fighting to get the AKC DQ lifted but odds are against that happening, at least anytime soon.  I'm certain AKC will NOT be accepting them as either a seperate breed or even a variety within the breed.  It's either a DQ as a GSD or an accepted color as a GSD.  There won't be any middle ground.

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 06 August 2010 - 13:08

Erica Lynn,
I am not interested at all what AKC disqualifies or not. UKC is even worse IMO, since they have no appeal to most of us for lack of FCI and therefore international recognition. A UKC registered dog could never be registered anywhere else outside of the U.S., and the organization is for people wanting to have fun with their dogs and seen as an additional venue for dog sports and shows, IMO. But when it comes to registration, AKC is the only recognized one, even though its regulations and requirements are a big joke. Because of its policies and own standards, the FCI "only" has a memorandum of understanding with the AKC which can be found here: www.fci.be/uploaded_files/Letter%20of%20understanding%20FCI_AKC_16072008.pdf . If the AKC would start to implement breeding regulations, for example that dogs with disqualifying faults could not be bred, we would not have the so-called "White German Shepherd Dog". This dog should not exist as it was developed as its own breed anywhere else under the name of "White Swiss Shepherd Dog (WSSD)" or "Berger Blanc Suisse". If you browse websites of WSSD breeders in Europe, you will find that their dogs look nothing like the AKC "White GSD" versions with their overangulation and that their dogs resemble the international GSD look more closely with slightly less angulation. A lot of these dogs also have Schutzhund titles or VPG, as it is now called.
If I wanted to own and breed these dogs, I would apply for FCI registry permission, based on the above letter of understanding, rather than accepting the fate of breeding GSDs with disqualifications. I am a true believer of breed standards, even if some disqualifications are unpopular.
Chris

by geordiegaviino on 07 August 2010 - 13:08

Thanks Silbersee





 


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