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by fawndallas on 17 December 2012 - 14:12
It is very sad that it has come to this for the OP. I wish her the best of luck to get what the courts has determined as rightfully hers.
It is also very sad that the breeder let it come to this. From the pictures of some of her litters, they did get my attention for further consideration down the road. Since purchasing a pedigreed dog is almost as much about the breeder as it is about the dog.... well, customer service says alot about who I am going to give $1000 or more too.
It is also very sad that the breeder let it come to this. From the pictures of some of her litters, they did get my attention for further consideration down the road. Since purchasing a pedigreed dog is almost as much about the breeder as it is about the dog.... well, customer service says alot about who I am going to give $1000 or more too.
by workingdogz on 17 December 2012 - 14:12
Ladyfrost wrote:
Really? doesn't it speak VOLUMES that the OP felt the need to clear the
air a little? And all she wrote here is just a small glimpse of what she has
endured via private email and texts etc from the 'breeder' and her cronies!
The OP did what everyone shouts on this board-take it to court!
She did-3 different court dates in fact! The OP was ordered a judgement in her
favor and now she wants her damn money back-the very same money that was
'promised' to her on numerous occasions! Is that so hard for people to get?
I am betting that she already knew it wasn't going to be an 'easy pay off' when
the 'breeder' accused her of trying to 'scam her for more money' etc publically.
Why do some find it so offensive and wrong that the OP is speaking up for herself
and her family after enduring many months of being accused of animal abuse etc?!?!
Quite frankly the 'breeder' is lucky that it's not another 'type' of woman that is
owed the money, after all she has accused the OP of, she may have found
herself picking up her teeth!
Slam nailed it in his post as well! The 'breeder' should have zero problem or delay
in paying the OP what is rightfully hers, afterall, she did go and put that Stop Pay on
the alleged 'lost' bank draft as soon as she was served papers to go to court
So the funds should not be an issue to refund.
Fawn, it is not slander if what is written is true.
I do find it somewhat humerous that the 'breeder' makes all these
grandiose claims of how she is even still 'friends' with the buyer who return a
bitch with puppies for a refund too-isn't this the same buyer that the 'breeder' has
referred to as an 'idiot' etc on another discussion board? I'm pretty sure it was
that buyer and his 'idiot' trainer too that she was referring to in that thread. Wonder
how tight the 'friendship' would be if he knew what she said about him there?
Simple really, want the thread to end? PAY UP what is owed!
| TH you cannot think that when you started this tread this was going to turn into a civilized conclusion with an easy pay off… |
Really? doesn't it speak VOLUMES that the OP felt the need to clear the
air a little? And all she wrote here is just a small glimpse of what she has
endured via private email and texts etc from the 'breeder' and her cronies!
The OP did what everyone shouts on this board-take it to court!
She did-3 different court dates in fact! The OP was ordered a judgement in her
favor and now she wants her damn money back-the very same money that was
'promised' to her on numerous occasions! Is that so hard for people to get?
I am betting that she already knew it wasn't going to be an 'easy pay off' when
the 'breeder' accused her of trying to 'scam her for more money' etc publically.
Why do some find it so offensive and wrong that the OP is speaking up for herself
and her family after enduring many months of being accused of animal abuse etc?!?!
Quite frankly the 'breeder' is lucky that it's not another 'type' of woman that is
owed the money, after all she has accused the OP of, she may have found
herself picking up her teeth!
Slam nailed it in his post as well! The 'breeder' should have zero problem or delay
in paying the OP what is rightfully hers, afterall, she did go and put that Stop Pay on
the alleged 'lost' bank draft as soon as she was served papers to go to court
So the funds should not be an issue to refund.
Fawn, it is not slander if what is written is true.
I do find it somewhat humerous that the 'breeder' makes all these
grandiose claims of how she is even still 'friends' with the buyer who return a
bitch with puppies for a refund too-isn't this the same buyer that the 'breeder' has
referred to as an 'idiot' etc on another discussion board? I'm pretty sure it was
that buyer and his 'idiot' trainer too that she was referring to in that thread. Wonder
how tight the 'friendship' would be if he knew what she said about him there?
Simple really, want the thread to end? PAY UP what is owed!
by beetree on 17 December 2012 - 14:12
Exactly Slamdunc, forget not the court of public opinion.
by LadyFrost on 17 December 2012 - 14:12
workingdogz......exactly....its all volumes of this and that w/o results....thanks for supporting my point. :)
by workingdogz on 17 December 2012 - 14:12
Oh, I'm sure the OP will eventually get her money owed.
Even if it means she has to continue pressing the issue
through the court system. Thats a hell of a black mark on
your credit report to have, a judgment for almost $2000.00!
If anything, hopefully this thread will open a few eyes as to
what kind of mistreatment and abuse another potential
puppy buyer might have to endure from this 'breeder'.
So, while you may see this thread as pointless Ladyfrost,
I don't, nor do others. It's a good eye opener for many.
If it bothers you so much, why keep reading it?
Even if it means she has to continue pressing the issue
through the court system. Thats a hell of a black mark on
your credit report to have, a judgment for almost $2000.00!
If anything, hopefully this thread will open a few eyes as to
what kind of mistreatment and abuse another potential
puppy buyer might have to endure from this 'breeder'.
So, while you may see this thread as pointless Ladyfrost,
I don't, nor do others. It's a good eye opener for many.
If it bothers you so much, why keep reading it?
by Teufel Hunde on 17 December 2012 - 18:12
You have a point Workingdogz...had another check been issued asap after she knew the check wasn't cashed instead of refusing to do so, this all would have been over. The money was there once payment was stopped and was available to her. There would have been no court costs added or judgment placed. This was all AFTER her months of nasty comments on the boards.....and I still would have walked away and let things be.
Ladyfrost....the breeder, not me, started this mess. The very day after I told her I didn't want to have to go public with it all she posted her thread Refunds- yes or no and when and what if??. When I said "public" I was referring to a case in open court that if she was found to be at fault could affect her reputation as a person and breeder. Public to her obviously meant jumping behind her keyboard . I was actually shocked she chose to air her dirty laundry out on the board, but once she opened that door it was a little hard to just stand at the threshold and not come in.
Does this whole situation not stem from the breeders boasting a " money back guarantee" ? This isn't just about getting money back , it's also about a breeder standing behind their word. If you can't be trusted to hold to your word, what else can you not be trusted on???I may be old school, but I stand by my word because it represents my character.
If you read the threads/posts from the breeder on dogs she has taken back, there is always negative comments against the owners. Too much crate time, they abused them,they don't know how to handle them,they fed them wrong,they gave them the wrong vitamins,etc.. IF I was a breeder, I would be more concerned about why my dogs are returned and quite frankly would be embarressed to put on any board they even get returned .......much less bash the people who return them.
Ladyfrost....the breeder, not me, started this mess. The very day after I told her I didn't want to have to go public with it all she posted her thread Refunds- yes or no and when and what if??. When I said "public" I was referring to a case in open court that if she was found to be at fault could affect her reputation as a person and breeder. Public to her obviously meant jumping behind her keyboard . I was actually shocked she chose to air her dirty laundry out on the board, but once she opened that door it was a little hard to just stand at the threshold and not come in.
Does this whole situation not stem from the breeders boasting a " money back guarantee" ? This isn't just about getting money back , it's also about a breeder standing behind their word. If you can't be trusted to hold to your word, what else can you not be trusted on???I may be old school, but I stand by my word because it represents my character.
If you read the threads/posts from the breeder on dogs she has taken back, there is always negative comments against the owners. Too much crate time, they abused them,they don't know how to handle them,they fed them wrong,they gave them the wrong vitamins,etc.. IF I was a breeder, I would be more concerned about why my dogs are returned and quite frankly would be embarressed to put on any board they even get returned .......much less bash the people who return them.
by LadyFrost on 17 December 2012 - 19:12
....so, simple question......how is THIS working for you?...
by hexe on 17 December 2012 - 19:12
Well, Lady Frost, I can't speak for Teufel Hunde, but were it ME, THIS would be working for me a hell of a lot better than it was when I was sitting quietly to the side, watching my character have aspersions cast upon it because I was letting the court handle things at that point.
Court's done, Jenni had ample opportunity to speak her peace, in person,THERE, but elected not to do so--perhaps because any allegations made in that venue would have required supporting evidence--and the judgement's been assigned. The sooner the judgement is satisfied, the sooner everyone stops talking about it.
Question I have is this--WHY does this discussion bother YOU so very much?
Court's done, Jenni had ample opportunity to speak her peace, in person,THERE, but elected not to do so--perhaps because any allegations made in that venue would have required supporting evidence--and the judgement's been assigned. The sooner the judgement is satisfied, the sooner everyone stops talking about it.
Question I have is this--WHY does this discussion bother YOU so very much?
by LadyFrost on 17 December 2012 - 20:12
topic doesn't bother me at all....is it so wrong to state the obvious that this bashing is not doing anyone any good?
It seems like unless one follows everyone else flow of thought and unless one states negative comment there is no room to make a common sense comments about ending this ordeal...yes i know i will get comments right after this one about how breeder needs to pay, and yes I am aware that it has been stated from page 1...yet somehow this negative and pointless discussion post court, post all the support that OP already received and all the petting and puffing and huffing somehow this triumphs over upcoming Christmas and Holidays and tragic shooting....
hmm...........now that i think about it...hexe...you are absolutely right...i think it does bother me, but for all the wrong reasons, we got kids that been killed, families that are devastated, we got people who are still recovering from Sandy and we have Christmas that is just arround the corner .....and it is wasting my energy and time....thanks hexe :)...I think I will do something more valuable with my time..
It seems like unless one follows everyone else flow of thought and unless one states negative comment there is no room to make a common sense comments about ending this ordeal...yes i know i will get comments right after this one about how breeder needs to pay, and yes I am aware that it has been stated from page 1...yet somehow this negative and pointless discussion post court, post all the support that OP already received and all the petting and puffing and huffing somehow this triumphs over upcoming Christmas and Holidays and tragic shooting....
hmm...........now that i think about it...hexe...you are absolutely right...i think it does bother me, but for all the wrong reasons, we got kids that been killed, families that are devastated, we got people who are still recovering from Sandy and we have Christmas that is just arround the corner .....and it is wasting my energy and time....thanks hexe :)...I think I will do something more valuable with my time..
by Red Sable on 17 December 2012 - 20:12
It would be very much in the Christmas spirit of things for the breeder to put her money where her mouth has been for the last 6 months, do the right thing, and pay TH what she owes her.
Other than that, all we can do is keep bumping this thread, to make newbies aware so they can make an informed decision. For if you can't be a good honest breeder, at least a horrible warning is better than nothing.
Other than that, all we can do is keep bumping this thread, to make newbies aware so they can make an informed decision. For if you can't be a good honest breeder, at least a horrible warning is better than nothing.
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