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by LMH on 20 January 2012 - 16:01
You want to acclimate a dog to a crate...in small dosages...to facilitate ease when traveling in your car.......fine....no problem. You want to relentlessly confine your dog all day to protect your persian rug......not acceptable. Get creative and devise some alternative solution. I've always managed and so can you. Gate off your kitchen or room of choice.....foolproofing room as an extra measure..such as wrapping chair and table legs.....whatever. The 'easy' crate solution is only easy for you.....not the dog.
And.......that BS about dogs loving their crates,(lol), they're USED to them. One of my guys loves retreating behind a wing chair in the living room. He also loves retreating to my smaller bathroom, and an upstairs alcove where he can peer out the window for hours. He's made it his business that none of these dogwalkers are using his lawn. Put my sweetie-pie in a locked box. Never.....never, in a million years.
Now......all you eyerollers.....I read your opinion and clenched my teeth. Feel free to reciprocate, lol. I've said it before-----if you're the type to crate, you will. I won't. No........I can't. I'm probably going to run out of space to continue typing, but remembering something.........
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by LMH on 20 January 2012 - 16:01
Huge garage. Opened the side door and there she was.....smack, dab in the middle...in a wired cage, hardly any bigger than herself. Friendly as could be. Looked like she had never been brushed in her life. This day was my first encounter with crates, and I didn't give it the thought I would have today. At the time, passed it off as merely a way to keep the adults out of the way when a buyer appeared........but later.....much later......realized the truth. Sigh.
Whatever----I hate those crates.
by Keith Grossman on 20 January 2012 - 21:01
by LMH on 20 January 2012 - 21:01
by Jenni78 on 21 January 2012 - 02:01
by EchoEcho on 21 January 2012 - 05:01
To add:
He is now 3 months and still likes to go into his crate especially when tired.
by LMH on 21 January 2012 - 07:01
First....oooo...Jen. I'll take a stab with an answer. I thought it was a given they'd nap in crates if they had them.
Using my dog as a point of reference, I'll address the backhand inference to a psuedo crate substitute......so let's examine the facts, (supplied by yours truly, lol),.....shall we? It's all about me, not den behavior. The bathroom is a favorite hangout WHEN it's occupied by me....showering, etc, etc. The wing chair is a favorite retreat WHEN I'm sitting in it watching TV. The window alcove upstairs offers a relaxing refuge where those eagle eyes watch more than dog walkers. They also keep tabs on mama....painting in her studio.
All about me.....wanting to be with his human. Joe has access to the whole house. If crate behavior was so..so necessary, nothing is keeping him from it. He can pick any spot his heart desires and 'den' himself royally.
Oh......and Echo....lol...Who knows and furthermore, who cares. He's a baby hiding. That's your defense of crating? I'm going to bed now. I can't believe I responded trying to read the English captions on the tv screen. As luck would have it, the movie was a foreign film. Drat. Done.
by Keith Grossman on 21 January 2012 - 13:01
Had I been trying to spell anthropomorphic, I would have.
by Blitzen on 21 January 2012 - 13:01
I doubt anyone would disagree that putting a dog in a crate 24/7 is not good for the dog. I just don't see the big deal about using a crate for a dog that is not trustworthy when you're not home for a few hours. Or for a dog that has suffered an injury or had surgery and needs to have it's exercise restricted for its own good.
Goody goody for those who are home 24/7 and who have the time to train their dogs perfectly from day one. Kudos to those who have found perfect dogs that can be allowed to roam free when you're not home. I've been fortunate enough to have dogs like that too, but my current dog is not one of them, so I put her in a crate when I'm not home and close the door. It's not just a matter of saving granny's Persian rug from being eaten, it's also a matter of keeping the dog safe from ingesting foreign objects and from harming themselves. Not all dogs are perfect and not all dogs can ever be trusted 100% when no one is around. It isn't always about the training or lack of or the pedigree.
I resent the blanket notion that those who crate their dogs are bad dog owners and those who don't are better or more caring dog owners. There's a lot more to being a responsible dog owner than whether or not one uses a crate to contain a dog.
by Jenni78 on 21 January 2012 - 14:01
Anyway...one day the receptionist says to me that she has a free 700 crate if I want it. I said I didn't need it, but it would be nice to have for an emergency. I brought it home and he ran right in it. He acted like he'd been waiting for one and it was Christmas. Weird. I even called my ex to see if he'd ever crated him to explain this reaction and he said to his knowledge, Caleb had never even seen a crate. He loved it. It was like he'd been waiting for his "own" place. I was pretty shocked. He continued to love it and use it to hide things he didn't want the Chihuahua to get, etc.
Now, I crate dogs to separate them. Caleb and Simon will fight given 1/2 an opportunity. I don't want Pit Bull/GSD crosses, so when the girls are in heat, Simon's crated if he's not with me. Everyone gets rotated. Right now Caleb's right next to me on the couch but he slept in his crate last night because it was Simon's turn to sleep with me. The old mutt and the little yapper are of course loose 24/7. My point in sharing my trivia is that it's not about what KIND of dog, what KIND of owner, it's about the lifestyle and dropping the fallacious idea that the mere use of a "locked box" is cruelty in and of itself.
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