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by Chaz Reinhold on 22 January 2012 - 00:01
by mentayflor on 22 January 2012 - 01:01
by Chaz Reinhold on 22 January 2012 - 01:01
by yellowrose of Texas on 22 January 2012 - 02:01
I AGREE CHEZ
If you have 8 germans in your possession, explain where you put them if you do not shut the door on the crate?
When we train on the schutz field, at the club..where do you put a dog when you are not training it, and it has just finished its routine, ?
Do you just throw it in the back of your brand new truck or car loose and come back to slobber, smell and scratches all over the truck or car?
At home how do you make a puppy listen or where do you put it while you cook supper, or sleep or go to work.??
If you own one pup and want to use a baby gate...I will send you mine in pieces , and chewed up while I was at the store..
of send the bill to the Church deacons to pay for the wall, the cabinet, the chewed up shower curtain, and the new toilet seat and facial boards needed, a new return water line under the toilet, and sump pump for the 30 gallons of water in my home , after Cashius clay got thru with 2 hours in the bathroom,...instead of his crate.
Just a little humour here, but my RAINBOW Vaccum cleaner , and my dog crates, and wire kennels , DO NOT TOUCH OR REMOVE.
yr
by Chaz Reinhold on 22 January 2012 - 02:01
by yellowrose of Texas on 22 January 2012 - 02:01
There was really a story in our Schutzhund Magazine, years ago, written by daughter of a member, who came home from school, to open the back door and water rolled out..
Their new schutzhund prospect pup was locked in the bathroom while mommy and kids were at school and work...THEY didn't believe in crates...cruel , and unhealthy and oh no , never would we do that !!
Daughter called mom in panic and then the Pup was rescued from the bathroom where it had chewed the water line under the toilet into pieces and water filled their 17,000 sq foot down stairs home.
TO the tune of $20,000.00 , later, the family bought crate for home, and kennel for outdoors and they realized the NICE crate Price of $60.00 was the best and most valuable purchase they had made that year..
Somewhere I have that article tucked away and I made copies and gave to all my puppy buyers as a part of their package they took home ..with the new pup..
YR
by Jenni78 on 22 January 2012 - 02:01
Had I had a 'normal' job or had kids or something that would take my attention, I would've had no choice but to crate him.
by yellowrose of Texas on 22 January 2012 - 05:01
For the last 3 months I have had one continual problem with three of my 4 females here, and today I told Chelsie , the next hole that gets dug in the middle of my walk way, the one that did it , is gonna get buried like the game we use to play down in Galveston , called how long can we stand it under the SAND~~~~~~~
Every bit of a 5 ft hole , sandy loam soil, by Chelsie, Bhandi and Mom Hexe..fILL IT UP, by tomorrow at 4 pm it is dug out again......and again.....and again......
We have covered it uip with back hole , put pepper in it, concrete in it and poop in it and nothing but putting my truck over this spot..keeps them from sneaking a dig and they are very quick about it.
THEY run to the trees when I appear and look back at me saying nannannna naw naw!
Chelsie stays in side in sun room and yes she has a crate .. Bhandi is loose 3 hours then kennel then Hexe and czuiker run for 3 hours, and then ABBY, WHO does not dig., and Raydo run for three hours. I get duty of play for one hour or so each time. Then all go back to their outdoor kennels until 1 am or 2 am for out time and then to bed in an indoor nursery.
Today was go to town day for the girls, and yes, they ride in a crate.
Chelsie dug a 3 ft hole by the gate while I was changing to go to town..
Do not know what is with the digging but good thing I live in the country...All these girls are over 5 except Chelsie and she is 4yrs old..
Guess it is a gremlin under the place or maybe Oil or maybe a vein of Gold down there..
The males are too busy chasing the horses down the road, peeing on all 340 trees and looking for squirrels and hidden kongs so they have not dug up anything..They all keep the big limbs towed to all parts of the property..MUST be the cold or the Howl of the Night Creatures here that are doing strange things to my dogs heads and minds..I threatened to put a grate over the hole and make that whoever gets caught their crate for a week...They would just push it up and out of way or dig another route out..
LOL
Imagine that
My dogs are so bored in crates....not...so do not offer that for a reason..they are just being K9's
now that they are becoming middle age I guess it is like Betty White's new show...OFF their ROCKERS!!!!
yr
by Abby Normal on 22 January 2012 - 13:01
FWIW I am not a fan of crates, and am lucky that I have always been able to adapt my environment to suit the dogs that I have had at any given time to be safe to leave for brief periods, and the rest of the time be free with supervision. The concept of crating came to the UK much later than the US (in fact I think it came to us from the US). However, I can see that it all depends on an individual situation, and sometimes there is a need. For those dogs that are used to it and have been accustomed to it from an early age, I believe they do indeed feel very comfortable and relaxed in their crates. Those I know at sporting events when not on the field are very chilled in their crates. When I was looking after my friends puppy who was crate trained, he would take himself off to his crate for a good sleep of his own volition, so he was clearly very happy in one. So I am not anti, in the right hands, just not keen on them for me. On a selfish note, I also really don't want to spend my life with several crates in my house for ever more!
Like others have said, it is common sense and moderation and horses for courses.
Unfortunately there are some who will abuse their use and simply crate for convenience and do so for 8 hrs or more a day while they are at work, and those dogs I feel terribly sorry for.
@ Beetree
Interesting that you mentioned learning things have you ever read Merle's Door?
by mentayflor on 22 January 2012 - 13:01
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