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by Sunsilver on 30 October 2009 - 23:10
Rik, I agree. It HAS to be a female!
Here's a male with his boy bits hidden by fur. He could use more bone, but the head looks male: (And no, this particular dog is NOT being posted as an example of an extreme dog. He's got fairly decent structure.)
Here's a male with his boy bits hidden by fur. He could use more bone, but the head looks male: (And no, this particular dog is NOT being posted as an example of an extreme dog. He's got fairly decent structure.)
by Xeph on 31 October 2009 - 05:10
I have to say that I do believe that is the same faded dog just stacked in a different direction. The handler is wearing the same jumpsuit.
by GSDSRULE on 31 October 2009 - 06:10
And the same tennis shoes with the wierd yellow places.
by patamoke01 on 31 October 2009 - 11:10
The one with the weak pasterns and the head directly looking over the shoulders is just making me cringe, I wonder how much co-ordination that dog has while its trotting round the ring? The one that dawgesome sent aswell is shocking.
How can people think these dogs are sound enough to work or even be correct for the ring, it is just beyond me.
How can people think these dogs are sound enough to work or even be correct for the ring, it is just beyond me.
by bazza on 31 October 2009 - 11:10
WHAT'S THIS THEN? People daring to have opinions on others dogs, ripping them to shreads based on pictures? That's not permitted on here, surely? Is it not normal now for some smart arse to come along and ask everyone for their crudentials? Where's the " show me your dogs" brigade? Not surprised to see the ring leader here though, that's all she posts about, i am surprised by a couple of other posters whom i thought would have known better. AS I SAID BEFORE, in most of these "photo's" SACK THE HANDLER!!!!!!!
by Rik on 31 October 2009 - 13:10
hello bazza, I don't post pics of other's dogs, most issues, good or bad, I can discuss using my own dogs.
Here is a fairly extreme female from my days when I thought I could be a breeder. She got a couple of points, but in the end, she had too much rear for the all breed ring and not quite enough front for the specialty ring.
I think she is fairly typical of much from the Am. S/L. Over done in the rear, The upper arm is long enough but poor placement.
Negative comments do not offend me at all. She was what she was.
Rik
Here is a fairly extreme female from my days when I thought I could be a breeder. She got a couple of points, but in the end, she had too much rear for the all breed ring and not quite enough front for the specialty ring.
I think she is fairly typical of much from the Am. S/L. Over done in the rear, The upper arm is long enough but poor placement.
Negative comments do not offend me at all. She was what she was.
Rik
by crhuerta on 31 October 2009 - 14:10
Bazza,
I would hope by now, you should see that I don't post "trashings" of anyone.
I can comment on a "critque" of a dog, when it is asked..........
I don't think the intent of most people is in malice.........and I do find the "pics" of the 2 "butt" pictures histerical!
Hell......it could be MY fat butt thats bent over in the GSD Shows!!
Robin
I would hope by now, you should see that I don't post "trashings" of anyone.
I can comment on a "critque" of a dog, when it is asked..........
I don't think the intent of most people is in malice.........and I do find the "pics" of the 2 "butt" pictures histerical!
Hell......it could be MY fat butt thats bent over in the GSD Shows!!
Robin
by bazza on 31 October 2009 - 14:10
Robin, i most certainly do know you do not post "trashings". I also found the butt pictures hilarious, maybe the butt lady would not find it so hilarious to know her photo was splattered all over the internet!! I would also value any "critique" you gave as i would know it was given with experience and years of knowledge behind it. However there are two posters here who posted pictures of someones dogs for no other reason to be malicious. One of those posters is forever running down show line dogs as if she had any real knowledge of the breed. She owns a "didn't quite make the standard" show line, and recently purchased a Shiloh, and sits at her computer all day scouring for " ugly dogs" for her personal collection. She has absolutely no knowledge, other than what she reads on the internet, of a correct GSD or not, as is evident here by her comments on conformation. I am afraid her ignorance shines through every time, and because of this total ignorance of the gsd standard and how to actually apply it, i find her comments angersome and think she should keep that large hole directly below her nose tightly shut. Or if that is too hard go back to advising on the SHILOH or how to keep your females panty pad in place during a season!!!!!!!
by Sunsilver on 31 October 2009 - 15:10
Bazza,
1) I did NOT START THIS THREAD
2) I am not the only one who keeps a file of dogs whose structure is 'way out there'
3) I am, however, the one who started THIS thread, to counterbalance this 'extreme dog' thread: Dogs That Catch Your Eye
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/forum/18290.html
4) I have NEVER EVER trashed anyone on the PDB, or any other message board the way you just trashed me. Class act, Bazza, real classy!
As far as these pictures go, anyone who breeds dogs like the above, and thinks they are 'correct' needs a wakeup call! Breeders need to stop breeding for extremes, and focus more on function and making sure the dog is capable of doing the job it was originally bred to do.
And this applies to ALL breeds, not just the GSD.
AS for the 'panty pad', now you're REALLY being ridiculous! I suppose your house is set up solely for the comfort and convenience of your dogs, Bazza? No carpets anywhere? No expensive wall-to-wall broadloom? Either that, or you must really LIKE cleaning blood out of the rugs! At the time I first tried this for an in-season bitch, I was living in someone else's home, and the whole main floor was broadloom. It was the bitch's first season, but she had a very heavy flow. (I had her spayed soon after, as she was a rescue.)
I do not have a kennel for my dogs, and do not want to keep an in-season bitch crated except for potty breaks. Unfortunately, this time the pad didn't work, as Star kept tearing it out of the 'seasonals' panty, and eating it. I originally bought the 'Seasonals' panty to keep Ranger from licking his incision when I had him neutered. It was a good alternative to those blasted e-collars, which he couldn't seem to get used to.
1) I did NOT START THIS THREAD
2) I am not the only one who keeps a file of dogs whose structure is 'way out there'
3) I am, however, the one who started THIS thread, to counterbalance this 'extreme dog' thread: Dogs That Catch Your Eye
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/forum/18290.html
4) I have NEVER EVER trashed anyone on the PDB, or any other message board the way you just trashed me. Class act, Bazza, real classy!
As far as these pictures go, anyone who breeds dogs like the above, and thinks they are 'correct' needs a wakeup call! Breeders need to stop breeding for extremes, and focus more on function and making sure the dog is capable of doing the job it was originally bred to do.
And this applies to ALL breeds, not just the GSD.
AS for the 'panty pad', now you're REALLY being ridiculous! I suppose your house is set up solely for the comfort and convenience of your dogs, Bazza? No carpets anywhere? No expensive wall-to-wall broadloom? Either that, or you must really LIKE cleaning blood out of the rugs! At the time I first tried this for an in-season bitch, I was living in someone else's home, and the whole main floor was broadloom. It was the bitch's first season, but she had a very heavy flow. (I had her spayed soon after, as she was a rescue.)
I do not have a kennel for my dogs, and do not want to keep an in-season bitch crated except for potty breaks. Unfortunately, this time the pad didn't work, as Star kept tearing it out of the 'seasonals' panty, and eating it. I originally bought the 'Seasonals' panty to keep Ranger from licking his incision when I had him neutered. It was a good alternative to those blasted e-collars, which he couldn't seem to get used to.
by Sunsilver on 31 October 2009 - 15:10
Xeph, it is the same dog. I flipped the picture, so it was easier to compare the dog with the one I posted. I was thinking they MIGHT be the same dog, but they obvioulsly aren't.
Sorry for the confusion!
Sorry for the confusion!
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