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I think its kindoff  funny for someone who is not a breeder , who doesnot know the dog carly policia slovakia , nor the bitches he is breeding , to say something silly like ;there wont be much uniformity in results

Daryll , you of all people should know the motherline is a very strong linebred line
faro policia -bero friedersdorfer flur-ex riedstern-ali vom granert

the way the faro pedigree is buildup is the way I like too see a pedigree ,not per se closely linebred , but linebred on a dog that is  linebred itself and so on

also brony policia is a linebred dog

fatherline is a very  strong pedigree , so my hunch is that carly bred back to his motherline or close to the troll/timmy line will give a good chance on uniformity in results

furthermore I saw carly  in person , and must say he is something special ,  in looks as well as in drives and workingethics

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The other day I wasn't a trainer of dogs, and today I'm not a breeder of dogs.  When we see at least a few of his 120 or so progeny conceived this year making their impact on the world a couple years from know, I might take notice.

Prepotence is not from passing the dominant gene of one's phenotype, but from homologous combination of genes that will pass one's phenotype no matter how the dice roll.

Carly himself is not linebred, and of his parents, only the mother is loosely linebred.  What his mother and father share in "type", I cannot tell.  So, irregardless of who he's bred to, will he throw himself into his young?  No better than 50%, no matter how unfair it may seem, is my assumption.

Is that a bad thing?  Of course not, not at all!  Perhaps it's sidestep to a bigger goal, a clever attempt to bring more sport drive into the Ingo lines, who knows exactly?  Some kind if critical selection point in progress.  I've bred with similar ancestry from both sides of his pedigree, and I find it interesting for sure!

daryll , I said before , its nice to dig up info and learn from books and google etc , but that doesnot make one a good breeder
paper is paper , but dogs are real , so as soon as you translate your paper wisdom into breeding great dogs I will be a believer


will he throw himself into his young? No better than 50%, no matter how unfair it may seem, is my assumption.

this is a fair bet for any combination made in any breed

ok and back to being an informative post over being an argument.

prager, or anyone else with the experience of this dog?

what can you tell us of gent od policie? what was he known to bring thru his progeny? good traits? bad traits? how bout line breeding on him? what lines did he cross well with/ bad with?

thanks kenny

Maybe you didn't read clearly.  I've bred multiple litters on multiple dogs within three generations of Carly's pedigree, top and bottom.  There isn't an overwhelming number of breeders who have, and odd that you think  that experience should amount to nothing substantial. 

daryl and duke,
 go start a pissing/breeding knowledge thread, and argue there, this was a great thread till as usual you 2 made it into an argument.

I just have this unbelievable knack for kicking people into attack mode.  I'll just leave it that I've bred several different dogs in different combinations with several of the same producers behind each of them, and that fact isn't even directly related to the point I was making anyway.  The structure of the pedigree led me to my assumption, which wasn't in any way a slam on Carly in the first place.  Hardly worth anyone who 'met the dog one time' getting all defensive about.  Guess we'll see how off-base I am a couple years from now, becuase I don't care to discuss it further.

If anyone sets the standard in Czech dogs for what I personally want from those lines, Jiri Novotny is the man.  Let me be clear; Jiri and Hans are each decades ahead of myself in breeding knowledge, training experience, and familiarity with the bloodlines, in both time and shear volume.  If you somehow think that fact escapes me, you are very misinformed.  For everyone who seems hellbent on humbling me, please allow me to do so now.  Prager is one of the few good reasons this forum isn't etirely bogged down by OT threads and petty arguments and complaints, which oddly enough, seem to be more often welcome than discussions of bloodlines and breeding strategies.  The real problem, as I see it, is that people don't like to have their ideas challenged.

Not sure where KKR gets off saying Daryle and Duke start these arguments frequently? Not the case, nor do I give a shit if it was. This was and still is an informative thread, so unless you have something to add "besides a complaint" shut the hell up and let it run it's course. No harm in people putting their thoughts out there or their experiences.

I'm interested in all parties Hans-Jiri-Daryl and their breeding programs. Hans if you could get some feedback about Carly & Pard, from Jiri in January when he comes to visit, I would be interested in anything he has to say about those dogs or his breeding program.