Lornaville Alsatians - Page 7

Noddi  well said i know  we have had words in the past  and we may  not ,always agree but our hearts are in rhe right place for our BELOVED BREED  which ever side of the fence we choose to sit,and thanks from Me Suzie and Tony for the comments on our  Beloved  Toffee.
 Nina

well yu know me,nina,i,m the type of person who speaks her mind and tells the truth.i must admit i dont like a lot of the animals on your side,but when the photos appeared in 1 of the dog papers after the uk champ show in 2008,i thought that the CC winning bitch didn,t look that bad an animal and that she should have had BOB.She,s too long for me but her overline in the photo was pleasing to my eye.have since met her in the flesh and am still of the same opinion.heard she has been mated.good luck with the youngsters yu keep.hope to speak to yu at crufts but please be a good girl.

Noddi,
 I am not going  i really have nothing i could take under Bob Kinsey but Suzie  and Tony will be there with Toffee,Denver, and Armena they will let me know what goes on.
 Too be honest i hate Crufts always have and with this Balance problem i have i never know if  i will a good day or bad day  and i would hate everbody thinking i was drunk like last year when i  rarely drink  especially when i drive .
 So have a good day .
 Nina

thanks nina.most be most upsetting having people think that.i would now ask the originator of this post to now delete it as it has now run its course.thank yu.

Linedancer-you have proved my point by saying you have nothing to put under crufts judge and of course you showed your real colours at crufts before.If you dont have a dog that can be shown under Germanic type judges then you dont have a correct German Shepherd dog-end of story.

Noddi sadly you had to chime in-so are you defending dogs that drag their bums along the ground then ? and where in most cases the elderly owners move faster than their dogs ?

arbeiter.Ihave no wish to get into a slamnging match with yu over this thread.life is too short and the breed of gsd deserves better than their owners having fisticuffs on the internet.yes Ms.Strange,s actions at last years Crufts were not warranted and no doubt she regrets her actions.as for defending dogs that ,in your words drag their bums on the floor.NO I DO NOT.if yu read the post properly yu will find I SAID THAT I DO NOT LIKE MOST OF THE DOGS ON THAT SIDE.,BUT I COULD LIVE WITH CH.LINSDOWN GEORGIA IN MY HOME.I DO NOT THINK SHE IS THAT BAD A TYPE,A LITTLE LONG AND SHORT IN THE FORELEG BUT IF PUT TO A MORE COMPACT GERMAN DOG MAY PRODUCE.I am not the only 1 on the german side who has the same opinion.remember she has a BIS at open show level from a ticket judge from the german side...MR ANDREW WINFROW ,who bred GSDS under the affix of Sadira.is he wrong..if so then yu are implying that all the animals he placed at EAST OF ENGLAND CHAMP SHOW a few years ago are not worthy of their awards.i dont think their owners will be very pleased,do yu.please Peterlee delete this thread now as in my view it has run its course.thank you.

Well, when no-one contributes this thread will have run its course and die a death in the normal way.

What gets me about this is that there is a type of German Shepherd Dog which is recognised internationally. And the international name of the breed is the German Shepherd Dog. The FCI, not the Kennel Club, sets the breed standard for the German Shepherd Dog. Who are these people who describe their dogs as ‘Alsatians’ and produce a type of dog which bears no resemblance to the international standard? Let’s get serious. These people should be challenged at every step.

And AM Bred dogs….. Give me a break.

I know what i said at Crufts  and i can asure you it was'nt what you or  your so called friends were told  it was also said i s drunk well that was'nt true either.
 I do have a bitch going to Crufts Ch Linsdown Georgia  which i am inpartnership with.sired by my AMCH who  on the Jacqinetta site  is 3/4 top sire and has beaten quite a few of the German bred sires I am very proud of his influence on the English side of the breed  .He has been top english sire for the past 3yrs  and it's not because he was flogged to death mating any old bitch but of the quality  in his progeny he produced to the right english bitches.
 So please you have the type of dogs you want i have what i like  right or wrong in your eyes   and i do very well in the ring under the judges i want to go under thankyou.
 As far as i am concerned my GERMAN SHEPHERDS  fall in with the KC breed stand and that is good enough for me thank you .
 It is a free country and you are entitled to your opinion.
 Linedancer like Noddi i really feel this thread is  past its sell by date and should be closed before it gets personnel

linedancer-why do you insist on calling your dogs German Shepherds yet never go under a Judge from German or anywhere else in europe for that matter.Its not entirely your vault ,the KC should have put a stop to it years ago-with all their money they should have invited over  some of the Breed Wardens to explain how the dogs should look etc etc, then again that would have left you and your lot  stranded i guess.

noddi/linedancer- why should the thread be closed down just because you won't acknowledge the facts.

i,ll have yu told arbeiter that MY ANIMAL IS NOT AN ALSATIAN.she is a correct animal  who would fit into the drawing by BRIAN WOTTON.her kc name is RHEINMEISTER CHI KI MI.she has won 1 cc under MR.ERIC BROADHURST AT CRUFTS 2007 and 1 cc under MRS.GILL GRAY AT 3 COUNTIES 2009 .she has had a 1st at WELKS 2004 and a 2nd (not sure of yr.prob.2005)under MR.BOB KINSEY,this years judge at crufts.she has many other high placings at champ.shows under many types of judges,so to my mind that classes her as being an absolute correct animal.i am constantly being stopped in the street by lay people asking where i got her from as she is the best shepherd/alsatian they,ve seen.a lot of people unfortunately still use this term,and yes i do correct them and try to explain.i have been in the breed since 1986 when i purchased my 1st gsd.IF HERR.BUSS ,who used to be the main breed warden and judge of adult females ,thinks that she is a good animal ,then she must be of THE CORRECT TYPE.yu are not only insulting me ,my animals and my views on wot is a correct animal.yu are also insulting all the judges who have placed my bitch in her show career for the past 7yrs.,and believe me my bitch has had numerous BP andBOB at open show level.I STATED THAT I COULD LIVE WITH CH.LINSDOWN GEORGIA,NOT THAT SHE WAS CORRECT TO TYPE,BUT THAT SHE WAS NOT TOO BAD A SPECIMEN AND SHE COULD PROBABLY BE IMPROVED ON IN HER NEXT GENERATIONS.we all had to start somewhere.i have know nina since i started and believe me I DO NOT LIKE MOST OF THE ALSATIANS I SEE AT PRESENT ,BUT I ALSO DO NOT LIKE SOME OF THE GERMANIC SPECIMENS  WHICH APPEARED ON THE CLASSIFIED ADS HERE EITHER AND WHY IS THAT .ITS BECAUSE I THINK THE BACKLINES AND THE HIND ANGULATIONS DO NOT LOOK CORRECT TO ME.IE THE HOCK JOINT FLAT ON THE FLOOR OF THE LEG THAT IS BROUGHT UNDERNEATH OF THE BODY AND THE BACK SLOPING TOO EXCESSIVELY FROM JUST BEHIND THE WITHERS,NOT MY INTERPRETATION OF .........STRAIGHT IN BACK SLOPING GENTLY TO THE CROUP.Ms.Strange and her ilk are allowed to have their own views /interpretation of the standard(even if we think they are incorrect)as this is a free country.IMHO they will have to change their views as where are they going to go in the future for studs as more and more of wot us germanics used to call english are coming over and changing sides.THE PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE FIGHTING WITH AT THE PRESENT ARE THE KC.WE SHOULD ALL BE ASKING WOT WAS DECIDED AT THE BREED COUNCIL MEETING INSTEAD OF SLAGGING PEOPLE OFF ON THIS THREAD.NO WONDER NEW PEOPLE DECIDE ...DONT WANT TO GO ON GERMANIC SIDE.....PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE,NASTY,HAVE GOT THE GREEN EYED MONSTER AND DONT CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT THEMSELVES.THATS NOT HOW I WAS BROUGHT UP.I WAS TAUGHT TO BE KIND,TOLERANT AND LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS NOT JUST MY OWN.........IN FACT TREAT PEOPLE HOW YU WOULD WISH THEM TO TREAT YU.WHICH IS WOT I TRY TO DO.SORRY FOLKS FOR THE RAMBLINGS.