Questions Re. Structure and Jumping - Page 8

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by vk4gsd on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

does the dog looked forced or unhappy?

 

you want to see dog now 2 years later, you expect to see an unhappy injured dog, or a dog in great shape, with crazy play drive and in perfect condition and health?

 

accusing someone of abuse is a strong accuastion yogi.


yogidog

by yogidog on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

wrong choice of words but to ask your dog to do something like that for no reason other than look what my dog can do is irresponsible and as dog owners we should promote responsible dog ownership


by joanro on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Susie, I maintain my opinion,you have yours'. And that's OK.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Yes, the long jump is totally different from vertical. The animal has to jump very flat, rather than in an arc. It's the difference between a steeplechaser and a show jumper.

And ALL animals that jump land on one foot first, not both. I don't think it's possible for a 4-footed animal to do otherwise, without falling forward, as they can't continue the forward motion if both feet land together!

Think about it for a second: the animal's whole body is moving forward at x miles per hour. If both feet land at the same time, there is no foot left to catch the forward motion (hind feet are still in the air) so the animal will fall on its nose!


by Ibrahim on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

I want to make a correction, in gallop, landing always starts with landing on one front foot then the other front fot, then one rear foot then the other rear foot in push forward, all happen very fast in split of second, it isn't two feet (one front and one rear) at same time (maybe that is the pace), when you watch gallop in slow motion it is apparent and clear. In landing front feet ane after the other, in pushing forward rear feet, one after the other.

watch at 16:18. I apologize for my mistake

 


by joanro on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Ss, sorry to disagree, but the two front feet hit, pop off the ground as the hind feet come forward to land. I've seen slow motion of horses jumping when bucking land the way I described. Any four legend animal is capable of landing the way I described if they don't bottom out for lack of shocks ( toosoft in front assembly).

susie

by susie on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Now we went through the forequarters - what about the HINDquarters?

In my opinion a moderate ( standard ! ) angulation is very good ( for jumping in theory the more angulation = the more power - mechanics again ), but as soon as there is too much angulation combined with unstability, its more than bad. No more controlled power in one direction´, all the angulation doesn´t help any more. It simply fizzles out ( I hope you are able to understand my English Sad Smile ).This and the fact that the German Shepherd dog does have LONGER muscles than other breeds (trotter, made for endurance, not for power) might be the reason that other breeds are "better" in jumping high/far.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Ok, see your point, Joan. You're talking about a horse coming more or less straight down, though. But I still say if forward motion is involved, such as coming off a jump, the horse isn't going to be able to catch itself if it lands with both feet at the same time.


by Ibrahim on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

It isn't also a matter of only jumping higher altitudes, it should be how safe it is for the dog and how bad each breed gets negative effect on its parts by repetition of those jumps.

Brings to mind a stupid dog that would jump from a building height and dies, do we say wow he jumped from 6 meters height !!!


susie

by susie on 12 January 2015 - 21:01

Now we are discussing drives...Wink Smile






 


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