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Hey, ya gotta do what the situation dictates. Can't say the situation CALLS FOR a lot of entelegency!

EW!

Entelegency (n):  an intellectual state of emergency. 

That sounds about right. 

Isn't there a possibility that the "Giant" GS's may be recognized by the AKC sometime in the future?   How did the Standard / Miniature / Toy Poodle become acceptable and recognized by the AKC?

BTW, Shtal, I think your dogs are Gorgeous !!

Sure it's possible. They might also be able to breed them with 3 legs, but that still doesn't mean it's a good idea. As for the poodles, if you ask me, standards are cool dogs, but after that the breed suffers. It's all about getting as far from useful as possible and turning breeds into mindless "companions."  Mind you, I've only ever cared about working dogs, so I'm biased. I guess if you think miniature poodles are a good idea, that's fine. Nobody should be able to tell another person which breed is ok and which is not, so long as the person in question isn't using dogs to make a fast buck rather than to benefit the DOGS. Dog faddism is what is responsible for so many problems in all the breeds.

Well, I owned a Toy Poodle -- loved that little dog.  He was so intelligent and a great companion.   I also own a Yorkie -- sweet, so lovable, but not the "sharpest knife in the drawer."   I also owned a "Teacup" Yorkie -- waaay to small, and he had a lot of health problems; he had to be put to sleep at age 12.

Of course, the Giant GS's would not be able to perform in Schutzhund due to lack of agility/quickness.   But, if someone wants/needs a Dog for home protection (or even a Business), a Giant GSD would certainly fit the bill and would be Very Intimidating to a person with bad intentions.    I would definitely own one -- if I could afford to FEED it.   HA! 

If a logical assumption the wolf that size is to big to compete in Schutzhund title - but survive just fine in the wild, then my Giant German Shepherd will survive as well just fine on my property land. "Healthy and strong bone dog"


Shtal:)

 Shtal, it's not about physical ability with regards to wolves competing in Schutzhund. Of course wolves could physically compete. However, they do not have the correct temperament. They have a heightened flight response. This often produces bad results when wolves, either through natural or human assisted means, breed with domesticated dogs. The resulting offspring often exhibit a strong flight response and other traits which are undesirable in a Schutzhund dog. They often do not bark either. Here is information on wolf-dog hybrids:  http://www.wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/guidelines.html. Here is MORE information on how wolfdogs behave http://www.wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/guidelines.html. Wolves are not badass creatures, they are TIMID around people. Wolfdogs have special needs and if you are going to create one, you need to research laws concerning rabies and wolves, liability issues for keeping a wolfdog on your property, etc. 

A wolf might be strong enough and agile enough to compete in Schutzhund, though it is not trainable and never could accomplish this. A giant GSD, however, I don't think it is physically capable. Why is my answer different, if they are the same size (you might be wondering)? Because a giant GSD was not bred for working ability, agility, speed, or strength. It was bred for size, as you say yourself. That means nothing on the Schutzhund field. If someone manages to title an oversize GSD bred only for being oversize, my hat is off to you. Bravo.