IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT re Degenerative Myelopathy (DM) - Page 10

BTW, Val, yes I do remember you from the AOHELL Boards. I remember VERY well the bunch of bullies on the board.  The *polite* but constant needling you engaged in, there, does  stand out in my mind very well. That is something
one would not be likely to forget.  Perhaps you were very young,t hen, and didnt know any better. I do hope you genuinely missed dsurber's post and you are not reverting to the behavior exhibited way back when. I personally believe that people dont change, so I question how you could miss that post by dsurber and my posts explaining the differences between the two diseases.  That being said, if you TRULY missed it, I apologize. If you didnt miss it and plan on repeating past unacceptable behavior, this would not be a good time to engage in that behavior. I am feeling tortured, not knowing *when* I should let Missie T go....It will probably be sooner rather than later. If you have any further questions on the subject of why there has been no official announcements about wrong test results not being made available to the public, I suggest you contact Dr Coates and stop making official reporting my responsibility. I have enough on my plate, now. Like you, I have been told of stories like dsurbers, but I didnt ask you for an official site, did I, or imply that you should know of one that is acccesible to the public.  

One last thing in relation to the DM Flash Test and the SOD1 test. Corgis and Boxers did not possess the  allele associated with GSDM in the Flash Test in their genetic make-up. I believe that is a very important thing to take into consideration when one discusses GSDM.

I hate to see a hesitation to submit DNA to the UM  and/or any other active DM project. Even if one doesn't think the results are valid and doesn't consider them a part of planning breeding, I see no reason to not contribute to the study.

I also feel that samples should be submitted to Dogenes project. The  problem with submitting DNA  to the OFA test is that all monies get locked into one particular area so other research cannot be funded. That, IMHO, is detrimental to DM dogs. One should never put all one's eggs in one basket, especially when the diseases are not the same.

If I had a dog with DM, I'd support the new study. Since I don't, I'll stay with Coates' research for now and  use those results as I feel appropriate. Others can do as they please.

Marjorie - actually I did not read dsurber's post until you pointed it out.  I did go back and read it after you pointed it out.  But again, it does not answer my question.  Is there any REAL proof of this happening?  Not just someone posting on the message board that it happened to their dog (not saying this person is not honest, but I dont know this person, do not know them, do not know their dog, do not know anything about them).... is there somewhere to go to find FACTS about this situation?  Website? person to contact? 

Again I have seen it mentioned here and another email list - but no one can provide facts, a study, a website which contains the information, any type of proof of this at all?  

I understand that you are disagreeing with the current DNA test available.  What I am interested in is if there is any real proof of dogs who are tested n/n or n/a being confirmed to have DM by necropsy?  If there is, I would love to see it... 

I am sorry you are loosing Missie T - I know how hard it is to loose a dog... I just lost my Libby last Sept and it still hurts.  

Valerie

I am so sorry you lost Libby, Val! I know how much you loved her! How old was she? She had to have been old (not that that makes it any easier :( )-didnt you have her when I had Jack Flash???? I could have sworn you did!!!

I am going to start gathering info from my DM site- my webmaster is working on putting up a page for me. The only one who would have all the official data is U of Missouri and they are not publishing anything to my knowledge, in relation to mistakes. Dsurban would not say what he did without it happening, It would be too easy to verify. Do the u of Missouri DNA tests have numbers assigned to each dog who was tested? If so, I
need to put a space for the test number on the page my webmaster is working on, for me, to collect data.

Marj - Libby was over 14 years old.  She lived a long healthy life and was active/happy up until the very end.  I am fortunate to still have her 9 1/2 year old daughter and 5 year old granddaughter.  

Thanks for the info!  As far as I know there are three different places doing the DNA test, I am not sure if they all assign numbers or not.  Will be curious to see what you find out.  

WOW!!! 14 years old!!! Thats unheard of these days!! Guess I got my latest pup from the wrong person! My 2 yr old male came to me with a mass in is neck- calcinosis circumscripta. It was sitting on his jugular and the nerves that go to the cervical portion of his spine. I had it removed but it grew back in one year. They couldnt get it all without risking paralyzing him or knicking the jugular. They dont know what to do with him now. After that ( 4 month recovery time at the height of his socialization period where he couldnt wear a collar or a leash, as he was slit from below his ear to his collarbone) I started hearing clicking when he walked. He had UAP in both elbows so he had to have surgery again, with another 3 month downtime. Despite all that, he is an energetic happy boy, but he doesnt do well with strangers, although he loves kids. I have to bring him back for another CT scan to monitor the mass.  Its been one nightmare on top of the other. Almost to much to cope with. Well, it is too much to cope with :( Missie T didnt want to eat tonight, for the first time, so I am monitoring her carefully. She usually loves going out in her cart, but she didnt want to, today. If this continues, well, I dont even want to think about tomorrow. I have to go day by day. Today was the first day her attitude took a hit. I will have to see what tomorrow brings... ::::big sad sigh::::::::

So sorry for you Marjorie. When mine refused to eat and wouldn't put his ears up, and lay his head down with a sigh, I knew it was time.