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by Kalibeck on 20 May 2009 - 16:05
Okay, I hope I can communicate this correctly. If a dog has crazy drive, & is corrected, & responds to the correction but comes up the leash at you---& another dog , who also has crazy drive, is corrected & does not respond consistantly to the correction, but never comes back up the leash at you: does that indicate bad nerves or clear headedness in which dog---? ***given that the corrections are the same, situation the same, etc., just asking a hypothetical. In other words--does coming up the leash = bad nerves, or excessive drive? OR - does sometimes acknowledging the correction, but not coming up the leash = clear head, or excessive drive? (or just stupid handler? LOL) Seriously though, trying to learn! I'm not sure I can communicate the whole thought so that you all can see what I'm trying to understand--! jackie harris
by jletcher18 on 20 May 2009 - 22:05
this is one of those topics that can be tricky to explain in print. for instance, why did the dog come up the leash? it could be out of pain, or it could have been because the dog did not think he deserved the correction, or it could be because they are in a higher drive state and just reacted. without actually seeing different dogs do this for all of the above reasons, it would be impossible to tell why the dog did it.
a dog who takes a correction and does not respond, or come at you. does the dog know what it got the correction for? maybe the dog did not understand what is being asked of it. you can have a high drive dog that is handler sensitive. i know, my female is. another option would be the dog showing avoidence to the correction and is now pouting. mom corrected me so now im just going to sit here and hope she ignores me. once again, without seeing these types of reactions in person, it is impossible to tell for sure why the dog reacted the way it did.
there are a lot of people, or at least there use to be, who posted here who would probably agree with me. you can read all the dog books on the market, watch every training video ever made, and still not truly understand (or read) a dog untill you actually are out training it. this is one of the benefits of training with a group or club that has a trainer who has worked with numerous dogs. a mentor to show and explain what is going on, be able to explain what it is you are seeing, and explain what made the dog react the way it did.
clear as mud, right?
john
by Kalibeck on 21 May 2009 - 00:05
No, I see what you're saying....I think it was #3, in drive & just reacted....& my other dog does take the correction most of the time....when the dog is very focused I get a "Huh?" reaction from her, instead of instant obedience. My male has matured & become a very dominant boy, a lot of fun, but as a novice, I don't want to screw him up. So I'm just trying to get an understanding about how/why I get some of the reactions, so I can do what's right, but I suppose it needs to be on the field! Back to training! I'm just glad the knee is healed enough to go back to training!
Thanks a bunch, John. How're your pups & mommy-dog doing? jackie harris
by jletcher18 on 21 May 2009 - 04:05
john
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