First UK koerung - Page 5

So I am wrong in that I state a SOFT PUPPY SLEEVE was used in the bitework for the 3 dogs that had already obtained a minimum of SCH1 title? Havent spoken to helper yet but assume not - BUT IT WAS NOT NEEDED AS YOU STATE Ok, fair cop. Maybe it wasn't needed. But it WAS used. AGAIN that is just WRONG!

Am I wrong that a rigid steel tape measure was used? NO BUT IT DID NOT PRODUCE INNACCURATE MEASUREMENTS WHICH IS WHAT YOU STATED On your dog maybe. What about the others? Still an incorrect way of measuring the dog.

Am I also wrong that dogs were measured on uneven ground? NORMAL GROUND - WOODEN WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER BUT PROVEN ACCURATE MEASURMENTS NOT AS YOU STATED The ground WAS NOT level. Again, What about the other dogs that were measured? It is not a correct way to measure a dog!

I don't think I am! I would just like someone from the organising team to clarify!

You see this as an attack on your own dogs. Why is that? Read YOUR ABOVE POSTS YOU MIGHT FIGURE THAT ONE OUT ! How about we see your dogs doing a full SCH1 routine - tracking, obedience and protection (on an adult firm sleeve!)? I love videos!

Thanks for the offer too Penny, but I am already committed this year to shows with my own dogs, so don't have a lot of free time. I`ll bet. Mo.  You obviously are feeling threatened by my statements. Is that a little bit of insecurity coming out and actually maybe a little bit of conscience.

Anyway this is not about your dogs personally, its about the event in general.

A puppy sleeve should not have been used and measurements should have been taken correctly, whatever the outcome. You as part of the organising team had a responsibility to ensure correct procedures were adhered to!

Regards,

Mike (Loving the pretty colours!)

perhaps mikey57 would like to be a helper next time-and he may like to not to wear  a sleeve at all.
I still reckon he's a kc. spy or a bagsd loony.
be interesting to know if he has ever organised anything worthwhile.Or perhaps his wife nags him at home.

Good Evening Folks!

Hope you all had a good day! I have been very busy today.

Penny,  YOU pick any trial you like. GSDL and BAGSD have their events published on their relevant websites. How is that for choice....? Let me know which one you fancy and I will try to find time in my busy schedule to come along.

I tell you what, You have stated your dogs have their SCH1, lets make this easy. Repeat your SCH1 and let us see your 91 track, 88 obedience and allegedly 91 protection.

I don't believe for one moment you would repeat anywhere near those scores even if an average was taken over a few SCH1 trials....Do you? Especially after seeing the Koerung bitework, on a SOFT PUPPY SLEEVE! (of which is also a little bit of heelwork aka obedience!)

So, back to the original thread;

Do you think the judge would be happy to have you lay all the blame at his door for the failings in the first UK Koerung....?

Tell you what, I'll give him a call and point him to this thread huh?

As for being anonymous...I have told you who I am. You had the opportunity to meet me at your Flawed event like I said, but you chose to be far too superior to lower yourself to speak to a mere spectator!

Oh, by the way - its the Irish Sieger soon. Are you entered? I wonder if they would allow a SOFT PUPPY SLEEVE to be used and allow dogs to be measured incorrectly?

I will be at the show, so I will keep a special eye out for you and your dog(s). I'll even video them if I so may? God forbid if they hold their event properly huh - especially the bitework section. It could be a very long journey home and a large slice of humble pie for you if so.

Any news on why the SOFT PUPPY SLEEVE was used yet? I forgot to mention, there were plenty of people already there using full adult sleeves so it wasn't an availabilty issue was it? Also laying the blame at the helpers door is something I guess he wouldn't be too happy with huh?

Almost forgot....earlier in your thread you talk about the SV not responding to anonymous people. Are you saying that anybody who has a genuine enquiry for the SV they will take no notice of, unless they know them? That was a bit of a crazy statement you made isn't it?
 
I am not an anonymous person. You KNOW who I am - I told you previously!

As for your 'bloke' as you put it. I feel for him I really do..........

Regards,
Mike.

Hello,

I have contacted the judge and the SV so now await clarification of their views on the matter of poor procedures and the very real issue of a puppy sleeve being used.

I will hopefully post info on their responses here in due course.

Regards,

Mike.

Just my thoughts, Missbeeb.

Jess

Mike57

Think you forgot to answer this one

Well i was not there so did not see but i do know the German system the fundemental part being the judges decision is FINAL i am sure you can complain to the SV all you want but the reality is
There were 2 high profile sv officials THEY gave the qualification END OF STORY

AND Mike before you start saying who should hav and have not past what is your SV jUDGES reference number