The most extreme? - Page 2

SchBabe, glad to know I'm not the only one who keeps a flie like that. Mine is called the Ugly Dog file. I also have another file containing dogs I like.

That puppy above is in my files, too.  Here's a couple more examples of German Showlines:





Little too much looseness in the joints her for my liking. I hate to see the showlines becoming hock walkers like their American counterparts.



Horrible example of a a broken topline


(can you use the back as an outline to draw a half-circle?)   OH, YES!!





A Czech female with very poor structure (LOOK at those pasterns!)


Finally, the dog that started my ugly dog file...This male was for sale on the database for many months. I used to shudder every time I saw the photo. He was eventually sold to someone in VIetnam. I do hope they're not using him for breeding!  He's the poster child for that often-repeated criticism of the showlines resembling: "hyenas with chow faces"!

I appreciate this discussion.  I learn even more looking at what is wrong in these extreme examples.  Can someone outline the areas to focus on:

topline
hocks
pasterns
tail set

anything else.  Now, it would be great to see some video's of "ugly" dogs in motion. hard to find I am sure. 

xeph's nominee is going to be hard to top. 

www.gsdca.org/GSDReviewed/kbitches/KenDelaineCountryJewel.htm

Scroll down on the link she provided and read the glowing ctrtique from the AKC judge.

Rik, unfortunately, I think I can top Xeph's entry...

Here are a couple of American dogs for you.  The black and tan dog is a UKC champion!



I think these two are related, or at least from the same kennel  Above: narrow head, snipey muzzle, poor bone, appears undersized, weak pasterns.

Below: HORRIBLE collie-like head, with muzzle far too long and narrow. Weak pasterns, oversized ears, very long upper thigh.  Too much white on chest. Dog needs a good brushing, too.








Just look at those dropped pasterns! The poor dog!  Hocks must have very weak ligaments too, as you can tell by the hock being flat on the floor. Neck is directly over shoulders, which is fairly typical with American showlines.

The black & tan one is horrendous. Just look at the hock. Oh how painful it must be for the dog to walk. Neck right on top of shoulders. Disgraceful. Doesnt that make them just face one way? Wouldnt it make them turning their necks painful?

The black one looks like it is a cross between a border collie, because of it's muzzle. It's too long & narrow. Just look at it's back leg. Probably weak ligaments and hips. Terrible hock!

I have seen the first one Sunsilver many times in pictures & websites. It is horrendous. Just look at that overangulated topline & weird back. Muzzle is too narrow.

I want to know what makes the "handlers" think that the horrific "stand" pictures do the individual dogs any justice??
I understand that some of the examples (dogs) are not  great examples of the GSD breed American or German period.....
However;......the people "behind" the pictures should be shot!
Who does that??...good God!...for what reason?!  Who told these idiots that the dogs looked "proper" or even "good" in their positioning?....
Blame it on genetics, breeders.....but don't forget to blame the people involved with the picture itself!....ie...photographer & handler!
Venting...sorry.
Robin

kind of.

I'm not ashamed to admit that there are many American showline dogs I DO like, but yes, the link I posted shows one of the most extreme dogs I have ever seen.  Doesn't matter how she's stacked, her proportions are so all over the place she's not going to look correct.

Robin, yes, the extreme stacks don't do these dogs any favours, but a good dog can still shine in a poor stack, as the above picture shows.

Alexander Maly Lumpik, who recently came up for sale on the PDB.  He may never earn a V in conformation, but I love his keen expression, nice, straight, well-knit back, and strong upper thigh.

Sunsilver,
He has too many "faults" for me personally........upper-arm, croup,  body length, brisket proportions & length to height proportions, shoulder lay..... just to name a few.
Is he a "handsome" dog?......YES...I think so.....but when you compare Elliot to him,....no comparison "structurally".
I appreciate "handsome" dogs too, and I too have a "type" that I like....but it doesn't always mean they are "structurally" correct.
I can appreciate everyone's particular "type" of dog of course!
Robin

I just really hate bad "stack" pics..........