Freaks now in the UK - Page 4

I naturally was informed that the puppies born here were being discussed here and thought I would pop in and answer some of the questions and attempt to help those understand that care to understand how this gene is and has been apart of the GSD gene pool since the inception of the breed, just as the blue, liver, and whites.

Then I will attempt to help those steadfast diehard must follow the written pedigree understand how and why the pedigree was changed to omit the blue and liver from the AKC standard (I live in America so this and the UKC standards are the only 2 I am concerned with).

So, first things first, click this link and read about the MITF and see how it can be carried quietly and when paired with the right partner can and does rear it's head.  http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogspots.html
 
There are others in the history of the GSD that have come out with the piebald pattern, and for those that think piebald's do not have ticking please be sure to read the link in it's entirety to see that pie's can and do have ticking to them.   There are also GSD pups that have smaller areas of white that are not color migration failure and are due to the MITF gene (AKA white spotting gene) and have been called the irish spotting, white spotting, piebalds, ect... they are all located on the MITF and at this point they do not know why some come out with small amounts of white (toes, chest, face, tip of tail), and others come out with a lot of white like the piebald puppies.

Secondly DNA to authenticate their parentage through AKC is being done (even though I know 100% who the sire is) and then vetgen is very interested in authenticating the pattern. Vetgen has done other color testings for me over the last couple of years as well.  Such as the Ay and they have also documented (tested)dominant black in the GSD breed as well.

There are 2 other piebald's from the same lines as these are from and Sheila Schumutz with healthgene tested the parentage and the pattern on the 2 that are related to the 2 born here.

As much as some have commented they look like they are mixed with something I assure you they are not, nor are their parents or grandparents. Both owners of the grandparents have been working with their dogs for some time and have pedigree's and DNA to back their matings as well.

Naturally until DNA is in and parentage is proven there will always be nay sayers, just as those that do not care for the 'panda' pattern or anything else that shows up out of the 'norm'.

Now as for the standard colors only 'followers'. One of the women responsible for the revision of the written standard just announced on the German Shepherd Genetics list a couple of months ago that she helped get it changed because a dog 'Gray Ghost' (or something along those lines, I will pull her actuall message and quote it if need be), the dog won and it was 'blue' so to keep other blues from winning they decided to revise the standard and say all dogs must have black noses.

There, that is the real reason the blue and liver are disqualified from the AKC show ring.

The grandsire to this litter is the only blue UKC Champion (as UKC amended their standard to say nose leather must be black too) after this dog won his title or it could be that he won the title and the judges just could not tell his nose was not black because with blues, their noses do get so dark they do appear black in many cases, some however are obviously blue.

So it's all about politics and not about what is in the gene pool (some used to tout health as an issue but that has been dismissed even in Willis's newest book).

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