Chaos out on the farm! - Page 4

There was a case - was it in Eastern Canada - where coyotes attacked and killed an adult woman?

They are interbreeding with wolves and becoming bolder (not that wolves are...), and larger and more pack oriented.

Documented coyote versus dogs happen all the time and large dogs at that.

This one was against a golden in daytime with owner present:
http://www.journalgroup.com/Canton/4470/dog-recovers-after-coyote-attack

 Photographer catches a female trying to lure dogs out of a fence to a others and was caught in photos.
www.komar.org/faq/dog-versus-coyote/

A 71-year-old Estero man is undergoing rabies shots after tangling with a coyote that killed his family’s dog, Chugger, on Sunday night  http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/may/20/coyote-attacks-another-dog-estero/

on dog/ coyote "coydog" crosses

Interspecific hybridization

A Coyote-German Shepherd hybrid

Coyotes will sometimes mate with domestic dogs, usually in areas like Texas and Oklahoma, where the coyotes are plentiful and the breeding season is extended because of the warm weather. The resulting hybrids, called coydogs, maintain the coyote's predatory nature, along with the dog's lack of timidity toward humans, making them a more serious threat to livestock than pure-blooded animals. This cross-breeding has the added effect of confusing the breeding cycle. Coyotes usually breed only once a year, while coydogs will breed year-round, producing many more pups than a wild coyote. Differences in the ears and tail are generally what can be used to distinguish coydogs from domestic/feral dogs or pure coyotes.^[28] Breeding experiments in Germany with poodles, coyotes, and later on with the resulting dog-coyote hybrids showed that unlike wolfdogs, coydogs show a decrease in fertility, significant communication problems as well as an increase of genetic diseases after three generations of interbreeding.^[29]

  Coyotes are prevelant all through the usa now even including one famous one living in central park New York.


"In another testament to the coyote's habitat adaptability, a coyote nicknamed "Hal" made his way to New York City's Central Park in March 2006, wandering about the park for at least two days before being captured by officials. New York's parks commissioner Adrian Benepe noted this coyote had to be very "adventurous"

Nancy, we posted same time. Coyotes do not naturally fear humans, wolves do. A coyote will attack more readily a human than a real wild wolf. Most wolves that attack humans is because of odd circumstances severe winter hunger or weak and wounded humans. Of documented wolf kills not fitting previous criteria it was found many were raised by owners then released feral not wild when owners could not deal properly with their natural needs leaveing them feral and unafraid of humans.

Yes that was what i meant with not that wolves are........wolves are shy but the hybrids appear to be bolder.

The larger coyotesxwolves are quite bold and we see these animals at friends' farms.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32976657/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/coyote-wolf-new-breed-predator/

And yes, coyote human attacks not common

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33509516/ns/world_news-americas/t/coyotes-kill-woman-hike-canadian-park/

I suppose it is safe to say that the working hearding GSD often fell victim when protecting the sheep.

I suppose that this dogs name should be changed from Chaos to Gamble.

Underground fencing is not going to keep a coyote out. They are very smart. If they want in bad enough, they will get in.
They will also do what some call lure and then the pack will be in waiting. Had a neighbor when I was younger that got to witness this with his large dog. Thanks to his watchfullness and having a loaded shotgun in the barn the dog lived.
Things can and will happen in the blink of an eye.
No one can tell you what to do , so just be careful.

RS, not fair. The concern was for HER concern of "coyotes" which was the reason she stated for neutering him. Yet, now, the story has chanced to "cancer." She brought up coyotes, and those of us who live in areas where this occurs frequently simply tried to warn her for her poor dog's sake that a female coyote will be and is OFTEN used as a lure, and then the rest of the pack kills the dog. In my subdivisionn where I used to live, 2 labs were killed while ON LEASH. Tiny dogs are like appetizers; they kill the big ones just as easily. If you have several dogs, chances are the coyotes may stay away and decide it's not worth the hassle. But one poor dog all alone w/no barrier whatsoever, except one that only HE can't escape without being shocked?! Now THAT is dangerous and unfair.

I had 2 coyotes closing in on us as I walked Caleb and Qira a few years ago, right behind my house. They followed us discreetly, getting closer and closer. Mind you, that was a HUMAN with TWO adult GSDs, 30 yards from a neighborhood in broad daylight. This is one dog, alone. 

This has nothing to do with people not minding their own business and judging needlessly. This is a legitimate concern for the dog. 

Tell me you Guys, This dog will get shocked if he leaves the Boundary of the Farm.
Will not the Coyotes get shocked if they try and get in or is it a one system, somehow i do not think so.
How about getting facts right, The OP said her father is living on the Property, The OP said she is going to build a house on the Property.
So when the OP builds her house does this mean the Dog has to live in the house at least at night when it chooses not to.
I do not get some of you Guys at all You can keep your dog locked in the house all day whist you are working and many crated as well for hours at a time so it has been said on here, not every one but some. That to me is Cruel but it is not my business, Yet the OP in this case says the Dog can be seen by her father as if she was living there herself it has a barn to go into and kennel in the barn.
I think some of you are making a case just for the sake of doing it, What i say to many of you who keep your dogs indoors whist you are working, More so if there is no one at home for hours at a time
Get your own house in order before chastising this OP The only mistake she has made was to put it on here for you puritans to pick on the bones.
Dogs are Dogs they are meant to be in the fresh air not in a bloody central heated house in the Winter and a Air conditioned one in the Summer, No wonder so many Dogs in your Country get Skin and Coat Problems then you wonder why
Now have a go at me but you know it is like water off a Ducks back to do so, in this instance many of you are wrong but you will not have the Guts to admit it
It is wrong that you down this person because it is not to your own liking and ways, The Dog is well cared for not neglected or mal nourished, I love my dogs as much as anyone on here but they live outdoors 24/7 and they lack for nothing and they are as fit and healthy and as happy as any dog anywhere, But i guess  i to am cruel for keping them outdoors
Steve1