Tired Of IT!!!!! - Page 4

Beetree, I think you're giving too much credit to many breeders by calling them "loving homes." Some are kenneled 24/7, in rows of other dogs there for the same single purpose. That's no life at all and they're far better off in a retirement home.

I'm not sure dogs are as selfish as we are. I actually don't think dogs have the same sense of self, which you would need to have to be selfish.

Nothing against the others that had her but she was able to die knowing she had been loved not for high scorces or producing puppies but for just being loved

anthropomorphism-giving human emotions to animals.

Pretty sure they don't know their scores. If you chose to raise your dog from a puppy till death, that's great, but don't judge me if the next person who wants to buy a green dog, work and breed him/her, then sale her when she is no longer able to work or breed at the level that they want. If someone is willing to pay for that said dog, than so be it. The person who buys a 6 year brood bitch knows or should know the breeding potential and the issues that may come along with breeding a dog in upper age. Besides a low sperm count, I don't know any issues with breeding a male until his last breath. I'm not a breeder, but I've raised different livestock.

Why do people take such offense when you refer to a dog as livestock? I was thinking it might be because we don't eat dogs. But here in America we don't eat horses either, but don't have a problem with calling them livestock. Horses bond hard to their owners as well.

@Steve, I agree that dogs are better at the whole bonding thing better than us humans. I would expect or would like my dogs bond to be so great that they would be willing to give their life for me. but not vice versa

I would give my life for my dogs, no question.  

Very true, Jenni, I was trying to make a point using the best case scenario. I agree, a 24/7 kenneled dog must live a monotonous, cruel life.

"The bonding thing", is that what we'd call marriage in the human world? LOL If so, then yes, you might be right, I've never heard of a dog asking for divorce.

hungerf4justice
A hard thing to say in words that you would give your life for your Dog and credit to you, But unless you have faced that the possibility that you may lose your life i think it is hard for you to judge that in reality, i am afraid it is not so easy to just say take it from me and i know from experience
Steve1

People humanize dogs way too much.  They got them as their protector, savior, best friend, "fur child", etc....etc.....

When I start seeing all of that it makes me wonder about the person.  I think many people need to have the feeling of being wanted and loved unconditionally so they put that on their dogs.  Their dog comforts them when their sick or wipes their tears when they are crying....getting kleenex and stuff.  Sorry it's just sickening....to me those people are right up there with those that put clothes on their dogs.

Its a dog, get over it.  Despite what you may think, he can get over you despite you raising him from a pup and feeding him and cleaning his shit.  A year with someone else who does the same and you wont be a second thought.  He won't be laying there thinking about the good times you shared.

Who cares if someone breeds a dog and then later sells it.  In a world of animal abusers and weirdos, as long as the dog is being taken care of...seriously that is all that matters.  If it can live in a house and be petted to death then even the more better. If people are so concerned then cough up the money and buy all the dogs that are being sold after the original breeder doesn't need them for breeding anymore.  Do something about it.


And im sorry if this hurts those sensitive dog owners but .......I ain't jumping in front of a bullet or knife to save my dogs life.  Sorry.  Not giving my life to save my dogs.  I love them and would try and stop someone but I am not getting in the line of fire.  My son...yes.  My dog...no.  More power to you if you would.

Well if it were not for folks who are willing to sell their dogs we would not have any.  Anyone who breeds for the betterment of the dog or try to reproduce a great dog with great courage, soundness and the like is the reason I have great dogs, so I thank them, though they are few in number.  People like Jenni at vom Eisenherz, Melinda at vom Glidof, Kathy at Wilmothhaus and places like where Steve got his Hektor really are motivated to improve and preserve and so if a dog does not end up to their expectation/standards they cannot keep all of them, and they are carefully placed.  Better for all.

Personally, I just am not cut out to deal with the public and the worry of placing dogs in the right home as well as the times when, despite everything, it turns out not to be right.  I don't know how you do it, but I am grateful.

Also, there is a happy medium between those that put clothes on their dog and people who have a stong bond.  Dog's do remember, though.  I have seen it, good and bad.