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by Blitzen on 20 December 2011 - 17:12

Are you talking about the working dog sport program?

From the AKC website:


Effective December 31, 2009, at the end of a three year trial period, the Board voted to discontinue the Working Dog Sport. Moving forward the AKC will record Working Dog titles earned in events held by existing organizations, if requested by a breed Parent Club. The organization must be approved by the AKC Performance Events Department. Titles to be recorded require Board approval. The recording of the title on an AKC pedigree will be done at the request of the dog’s owner for a fee set by AKC. In addition, AKC clubs will be permitted to invite the other organization to hold its Working Dog event in conjunction with the AKC club’s AKC event, as long as it is clear in the publicity that the former is being held under the auspices of another organization.

 


Fenrir

by Fenrir on 20 December 2011 - 17:12

Yes I think that was the program, and it was schutzhund work for sure

by Blitzen on 20 December 2011 - 18:12

Honestly Fenrir, I don't think the GSDCA can sponsor Sch trials since the AKC still prohibits them as far as I know. The GSDCA-WDA sponsors the trials.



Fenrir

by Fenrir on 20 December 2011 - 18:12

All I know is that for their trial period of 3 years or whatever they tried doing "Working dog Sport" and decided "As a board" to discontinue it. Too bad really, and I know their own website had pictures of Sleeves and helpers, dumbells and jumps  with tracking as well. In fact if I remember correctly their website also had a tab dedicated to JUST this. I know this so well because back then I was looking to get into Schutzhund and thank god I found my actual Schutzhund club and did not get dragged into that debacle because obviously the AKC and GSDCA don't care about their dogs history or sport, and it is really too damn bad :(

by Blitzen on 20 December 2011 - 18:12

I believe there were 5 or 6 breeds that participated initially; Rotties and GSD's were 2 of those breeds. My guess would be that AKC didn't find enough interest from the "trial" breeds to go through with sanctioning it. Many AKC GSD people are afraid of Sch, say they don't want to teach their dogs to bite people. Also Sch is probably too much work for a lot of GSD owners. 

Smiley

by Smiley on 20 December 2011 - 19:12

And...it is pretty dang near impossible to find a club to participate in if you are a GSDCA member! I know..I have been trying to find a club for a bit now. Some WDA clubs are just not active enough and even the ones I contacted are not accepting new members.  It seems that most of the ScH clubs (at least in my area) are not accepting new members. Period.  Plus, the clubs that may be accepting members are only interested if you can trial with USA (something that is hard to do if you are a GSDCA mmeber unless you come in through backdoor of another organization like DVG). The ScH Clubs are a very closed society to outsiders which could be part of the problem... 


Sara

Fenrir

by Fenrir on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

I think the problem is that GSDCA members do not want it, if they wanted it enough it would happen...You see there in lies my problem, how is it that the organization that is SUPPOSED to represent the German Shepherd for the entire country of the United States has nothing to do with the cornerstone sport of the German Shepherd? When the president of the GSDCA makes comments regarding the dog used by Navy SEALS to take down Osama concerning how it was probably a Shepherd because blah blah...Excuse me?? Why are YOU of all people talking about working K9s of any kind considering your organization has openly and blatantly called out dogs like the one used...It just gets to me a bit, grrrrr. Not the AL dogs themselves they fall victim to our human politics and biases but the parent organization. This is not a trotting or gaiting dog folks it's a working dog first and foremost everything else is of no consequence in comparison.

by Blitzen on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

Fenrir, I think there a a number of members of the GSDCA who think the same way you do. For some reason dog people of all breeds have a very difficult time coming together to agree on much of anything.  I'm not just talking about AKC people and GSDCA members. There is always talk of infighting within all GSD organizations. Someone is always on the hot seat for something ,someone is getting shit canned, someone is incompetent, yadda, yadda, yadda. Dog people are truly their own worst enemies when  they let their egos overtake common sense.

Sara can't even find a club to train her dog. How can we expect the sport of showing dogs in any venue to continue if we won't mentor newbies?

Fenrir

by Fenrir on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

"Sara can't even find a club to train her dog. How can we expect the sport of showing dogs in any venue to continue if we won't mentor newbies?"


*Sigh* it is so true, and so sad...Dog people really are their own worst enemy. :(
 

Mystere

by Mystere on 21 December 2011 - 18:12

If Sara wants to train, and demonstrates that she is serious about doing so, she will be welcome at a club.  Yes, some clubs must put a cap on membership--the clubs with several consistent helpers can afford to open up to new members more so than those with one or two helpers and memberships of  25+.   That is simply the reality of diminishing returns.

 Sometimes, one simply has to choose among priorities and limited resources.

Sara, what part of the country are you in?





 


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