Who Do You Trust - Page 27

Yup, that is the difference between spoken language and written language.  Things can be interpreted in many different ways, often to suit one's needs.  I find it very interesting to see how people interpret things and the differences in interpretation can be astounding. 

Came across this thread and it too had degenerated for a while into personal attacks and (baseless) accusations against certain members, like the other "hips" thread. 


I could be wrong or perhaps something was lost in translation, but there seems top be a comparison between this thread and the "other hips" thread.  I feel pretty strongly that the statements and facts presented on the other "hips" thread were far from baseless accusations.  I think the "certain member" clarified he "f***d up" and sure took a whole lot of prodding to do the right thing.  Given little choice.  I think the baseless accusations comment would be different if it were aaykay's dog instead of Chrissy's. 

JMO FWIW,

Jim






  

I guess we won't know until aaykay tells us. I honestly thought the reference was to attacks on others in the hips thread, and baseless personal attacks in this thread. Maybe because I don't see the hips thread as having "baseless" attacks (there was certainly a "base" though I made it known that I disagreed with the way it ended up), I didn't take aaykay's post to mean that it was baseless. Hmmm. I really dunno! 

Jenn,
there was certainly a "base" though I made it known that I disagreed with the way it ended up

I think it ended ok for Chrissy.  I think if it had been handled appropriately from the beginning there would not have been as much outrage.  A second opportunity to handle it correctly after the fact was given and no one can be blamed but the breeder / importer / broker.  If it was handled correctly from the start of the thread, people may have believed the "story" of what happened.  I am not surprised that it happened; I was / am a little shocked and disgusted in the way it was handled by the breeder / importer.  It is a good thread for people to read when thinking of importing a puppy.  You don't allows get what you pay for, you certainly can not trust a broker to always have your best interests at heart.   Keep in mind the breeder / importer launched plenty of their own attacks, some even at Chrissy.  
  

I thought I was pretty clear that I meant the way the THREAD ended up, not the situation, Jim. I was only guessing as to aaykay's meaning and illustrating why I thought what I thought. 

I just know from emails I got during the hip thread that I wasn't the only one who thought people might be making it worse for Chrissy and lessening her chances at getting what she deserved by making insults that really had nothing to do with deeds or character traits, but physical traits. I have since learned that there are a few on the forum who don't see a difference between disagreeing with actions and deeds and calling people fat and ugly. So, my posts were futile in the end.   Instead, they just served to spark more vitriol that has now leaked all over the board, into every thread certain members are a part of. Many have noticed. I thought that is what aaykay was referring to. I don't even know aaykay, so I won't keep trying to guess. I was just surprised to read your post and joanro's post because I didn't think of it that way. 

Regardless, it's all got nothing to do with "who do you trust" so I don't want to further derail.

I too wondered if the highly charged emotional posts on that thread would negate her chances of a reasonable outcome.  That is why days went by before the kennel / broker was named.  Funny, how it worked out that after he was called out he suddenly responded.  It's not like he wasn't posting on the PDB on other threads during that time.  I had a feeling that nothing would get resolved until he was named and that was definitely the case.  It does have something to do with "Who do you trust." Maybe it is who don't you trust?  They are somewhat related. 

By the way, I also got a lot of PM's during that thread.  Many with complaints about the "certain member" and many wanting to help Chrissy resolve the issue. 

Attempting to resolve a problem with said kennel/broker in private is futile, all that will result are insults. That's why going public was the only path to resolve the issue for Chrissy.

Joanro,
Absolutely true and proven beyond a doubt on that thread.

Jim

I thought the thread ended up with Chrissy getting her rightful money back. I thought that was a wonderful and deserving end. Some keep rehashing the fat lady sings pun like it is a lifesaver for the highroad. Trying way too hard, I think.

Well, I never knew that my two liner post would create such a firestorm !  

What I meant was that in this particular thread, things quickly slipped into personally attacking someone who had gone above and beyond in making her customers happy, and her customers came onto this thread and confirmed the same, and even then the attacks continued.  The accusations were clearly baseless and pretty vicious.

In that other thread, I myself stated that I would have handled the situation entirely differently, in directly/quickly reaching out to the affected party, and making sure things were quickly addressed, without allowing things to fester.....as soon as the overbite situation was discovered.  

BUT, I disagreed with the method of attack, and the name calling that took place there......including some baseless accusations on the timelines of when certain posts were made in a different forum (I am referring to the mud slinging by a poster who linked a thread from the alpine forum and made some vicious/baseless attacks, prompting someone to state along the lines of "if you are going to destroy a man's livelihood, then at least get the events and timelines right" and the gist of what I stated in response was "when a lynch-mob targets someone with accusations, facts/timelines don't matter....all you do is throw more of the dirt out there, and the rest of the mob will quickly take up the chorus").

Hope this clarifies the "baseless accusations" part of my prior post.  Hopefully, we can move on, since this kind of bickering helps no one.